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TR606 CY+HH Kicad Shematic (Capacitor labeling on old shematics)
Zam replied to Phatline's topic in Miscellaneous
Not sure, but I'm confident that KiCad can import background picture at PCB drawing Not useful for components layout reflecting schemo layout as you wish, but can help to reproduce original PCB layout (or close to) Which can help somehow. Side note: R163 and R164, two 1M in series... just put one 2M resistor here... don't understand that design choices. Maybe due to PCB layout, but when looking at it, it don't seem so relevant, single resistor can fit without trace change. Maybe carbon resistor by a time when value over M ohm were difficult to manufacture... don't know. Best Zam -
TR606 CY+HH Kicad Shematic (Capacitor labeling on old shematics)
Zam replied to Phatline's topic in Miscellaneous
I just go little further, easy to find schemo and pcb I confirm C49 is 1uF 50V polarized elecrotlythic Pict attached with red dot/arrow Best Zam -
TR606 CY+HH Kicad Shematic (Capacitor labeling on old shematics)
Zam replied to Phatline's topic in Miscellaneous
Hi Phat Usually there is a note around schemo for capacitor like "capacitance in uF (or nF, or pF) unless specified" So in your case it's clearly uF. C47 C49 are 1uF 50v, C64 is 2.2nF. For C49 I suspect a drawing error, there is chance it's a polarized lythic, as C47 If you have the actual hardware you can check at PCB, or at PCB drawing if you have it with schematic drawing. Is that some Roland schemo? typo took familiar... edit: missed but you already tell this :) Best Zam -
Hello Thorsten Ok that's great it work now !!! fader moves without USB connected I just made a quick change at .NGC to check, don't have time this week to go further on this i'm in a middle of mix session. Sorry but to make it work right now I have to define ports=00000000000000001000 and not ports=00010000000000000000. there is some contradiction between text/description and example, but I solved this in few min, as I get the point of 16bit in place of 12bit for the ports definition. Everything is fine Best Zam
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Hi Thorsten Thanks !!! Did you just upgrade the documentation, because I miss this couple days ago, when I read for the hundred time again the documentation I will try asap juste a note/question according to the example you give, SPI is first 4 digits not last 4 digits, and fourth digit enable SPI 4, if I'm logical ? Best Zam
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Hi nobody using the NG and SPI midi ??? best Zam
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Hi all From .NGC, I try without success to have midi data I/O with RTP-midi (kissbox) connected at J16 (J1 at BEB card) I'm able to send midi with .NGR and SPI1 port definition, but I want to send receive midi with .NGC configuration How can I do that? "ports=" definition at .NGC don't seem to have SPI choices... I'm lost here. Also I have trouble to update/load data with MIOS studio, I connect to the core, browse and edit config files, but there is error if updating/saving the change. Another example, if I type "help" at MIOS studio terminal, the text with all available command is just crazy, missing parts and wrong "return to line" I'll appreciate help on this best Zam
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Are you sure it's not a real volume pot for analogue path monitoring ? Best Zam
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Hi Seggl IIRC, HUI control surface don't have dedicated master fader like MCU, the hardware have 8 fader not 9, so no locked "master" fader. You have to navigate/bank until you reach master fader in your DAW mixer layout. Best Zam
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Hello Benoit yes .NGC (config) and .NGR (script) for MB_NG are "upper level" more human as you say :) so when you define an event at .NGC it's like this: event_button id=1 type=CC CC=1 chn=1 ports=10000000000000 will send CC1 over port USB1 first midi channel when first button in the srio chain is pressed the ports= parameter is like this (from the manual): there is no definition for SPI port... (I try the reserved ones) but at .NGR which is script that can be launched from .NGC like this: event_button id=1 type=meta meta=runsection:1 I can use the SPI port to send midi like this: if ^section==1 send CC SPI1 1 1 127 endif exit and my button will send CC1 ch1 value 127 over SPI1 (SPIMO) when pressed this actually work, but I can't use script for all button, led and fader (Ain +Aout) I have. I'm lost, It make non sense to have the SPI port actually working and not available from .NGC event configuration file I'm sure it's nothing, and I'm just missing an easy point. Best Zam
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Ok... I just perform more test I'm able to send/receive midi data (note) when pressing button with script at .NGR file and SPI1 port target (in place of USB1) like this for exemple: ---------------------------------------------------- if ^section == 1 if BUTTON:5 == 1 change LED:3 127 change LED:6 0 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x4a 127 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x18 127 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x18 0 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x4a 0 change BUTTON:6 2 endif if BUTTON:5 == 2 change LED:3 0 change LED:6 0 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x4a 127 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x18 127 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x18 0 send NoteOn SPI1 1 0x4a 0 change BUTTON:6 2 endif exit endif ----------------------------------------------- I still not understand the SPI port choice at .NGC ?!? Best Zam
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Hello Benoit I just reply to your email From my last w-e test, I confirm MIOS and the RTPM card communicate together, I can monitor all the midi I/O port with MIOS studio, and I see SPI coming in and going out (using the MIOS router), I just can't config a button nor a led to send/receive from the midi SPI, I think I miss something at MB_NG side but don't know what. Ok good to know for the bug, It will save me time to try reaching this endpoint :) Best Zam
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Hello Benoit Tks for help I ask the question here in place of direct email, thinking it can help other in the future So I think I start to undersand... I have to change the MIOS code and recompile the app to have access to SPI port I'm just unable/unknowgable to do it I first thinking SPI midi port will be available directly with MB_NG code and .NGC configuration, as we already have a "port=" parameter where we can chose 4usb, 4din and 4osc port and as there is 4 unassigned digit in this parameter I was hoping it's for SPImidi, but no I activate SPI midi at bootloader side and check the MIOS midi router, loop work fine to and from SPI<-->USB, so I believe everything is fine at hardware And a kissbox side question, is that normal that I get communication error with kissbox editor when trying to setup the second midi I/O (5006) ? So it will be great to have a MIDIbox NG 1.036 with direct SPImidi available as port=0000000010000000 in NGC/NGR config file. Best Zam
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Hi I'm playing with my new core/rtmp since yesterday. Everything seem to work somehow, I'm able to connect to the core with MIOS studio through RJ45 (with some text bug when typing "help"...) also updating ngc make the connection lost. I'm able to send midi data to the rtpm card from computer over network (red led blink), and while setting MIOS router i'm able to send back data from usb to network BUT i don't get the point to have NGC events sending/receiving midi data over RTPM ??? How can I chose SPI midi port in place of USB, OSC or 5pin midi ? Best Zam
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Hi Novski as you say... time fly and summer come again I don't update so much recently but I work on it... already hit the 4k invest with this r&d and now have about everything at home to check/approve the 8 fader pack. (except fader with one more month delay from manufacturer ) Best Zam
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Hello X11 Thanks, it's a good decision. Best Zam
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Hi all Sorry to be harsh bust this kind of advise SHOULD NEVER TAKE PLACE !!! It's again all safety rules, wrong understanding about this can be lethal. We clearly see aluminium case at first pictures so it's clearly not a class II YOU MUST KEEP SAFETY EARTH CONNECTED TO CHASSIS !!!!!! Two wire wall outlet should only be used for class II equipment ... Best Zam
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Hi All I just order a RTMP card from Benoit, expecting doing nice things with it I just have a question, as it's not clear to me right now. Are midi ports, from and to, the RTPM card directly accessible from NG code with .NGC commande ? --> ports=0000000011110000 are this third 4 digit "reserved, don't use it !" the ones used for this purpose ? Or do I have to use USB, midi or OSC (ports=1111111100001111) and route them to/from RTPM at mios side ? Best Zam
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Hi Phat MB_NG on STM32F4, no MF_NG, but Ain/Aout and "in house" motor driver My "need" is in the meter range, one or two, maybe 3m ... The core is in a 19" rack (with PSU and line TX) , low at a side of the console, fitting the LCD here is not really useful. Best Zam
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Hi all The question is simple, as the title say. What is (aprox) the max cable length I can expect to use at J15 for driving an LCD I want to put one for my MB_NG fader system but it make sense to have it at the top of the console or somewhere in the frame. Best Zam
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Hi Nothing much to say but to me KiCad is the future. If you try it 10 years ago, I think you have to try it again now Best Zam
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Hi Yes it's the 407, your second link. Manufacturer ref: STM32F407G-DISC1 Best Zam
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Hi all For info, I just install the bootloader and MB_NG on the new revision of the STM32 board. So far everything work fine. I'm just little perplex as I have a close look at my "old" disco board and there is already a STM32F407VG labelled at the ARM, purchased one year ago at RS??? Best Zam
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Hi No, I check with my DDM finally... i have 4V+ at the DAC output (not Vdd-0.4 as I use a map with high value limit) , the output is 2Vref x (code/0x100) Yes definitely a problem, you should have the high Vref mode, maybe it's just a start up problem, when some bite define the Vref mode. Check your serial connection, HW chip line selection, also maybe NG configuration to be sure about soft side chip line selection and correct DAC choices Best Zam
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Yes this one should work theoreticaly but I believe nobody try for now. I receive one last week I put in a RS order, unfortunately my Windows computer die, and I can't flash it and install bootloader. I have to ask a friend, hope for the next week, then I can confirm to everyone if this disco V2 is ok. Best Zam
