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  1. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    To anyone! On my pipe organ conversion project the next step is to look at driving pipe palet valves (90 ohm- 12vdc Solenoids) . Presently I will be assembling a midio128 and a midio64 to handle encoding the three keyboards. Although I need only 32 inputs for the pedal out of the 64 on the core for the midio64, the balance will be used for stop switches for the different ranks of pipes and presets(see below). So next question: On the organ console, there are numerous stop switches dedicated to individual ranks of pipes  which in the hardwired relay world enable selected ranks. There are two manuals (keyboards 64 keys each) and a pedal board with 32 keys. If no ranks are selected, pressing keys does nothing.  There are groups of stop switches ( one for each rank) which play from each keyboard and pedal board and also couplers which allow ranks dedicated to one keyboard to also play on the other keyboard, or pedal. Using midi, I want to accomplish the same things. How should this be done? Since in the hardwired world, the stop switch is really a bank switch which enables all pipes on a particular rank to play.  In midi terms, if  there is a core and douts for each rank. and all of these output cores are programmed to the same channel so all would receive the key on/off from the key encoders, in simplest configuration, all ranks would play at the same time. thowever, if you want to play only one selected rank, there has to be a means to enable only one core, while all others ignore the incoming key on/off signals. On the organ, a stop switch is used to perform that function. In midi terms, I need to enable selected output cores with stop switches for each rank and for each keyboard. I plan to use the 32 spare inputs on the midio64 (pedal encoder) for the stop switch  inputs  to enable selected ranks. How do I do this with midi software, hardware? In addition to enabling individual ranks, I would also like to enable selected, preset groups of ranks with one switch action (presets in organ lingo). Can the Midio128 which I have already purchased be used in the process? I have .jpg photos of the hardware if it will help understanding the situation. Will the insert image button insert a .jpg? Otherwise how do I insert diagrams, or photos. Any and all comments will be appreciated. John Hope that this is not too confusing for you non-organ chaps.
  2. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Mickey, question: I set up bank 25 on my soundcard for the theater organ sound fonts as recommended.  To check them out, I loaded the  audioHQ software, using the keyboard, located the bank 25 to check out the sounds of the different ranks. All seem to sound ok, however the tibia ranks all sound more like a drumbeat on a particular pitch, rather then the typical sound of a tibia pipe.  Any suggestions why? I have the same soundfonts in two parts in banks 22 and 23, and the tibia plays ok there. Thanks, John
  3. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Mickey, I downloaded the midister software to try it out.  The display looks good.  The soundfonts are the same as for Jorgan, however, it doesn't appear to be configurable. Don't see any setup to assign the keyboards, pedalboards or stops. Did I miss something? John
  4. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Felix, Sorry I didn't respond to your comments. No, I have not gotten that far into the Mios stuff. My core and I/O modules are on order and I will get into it after assembling all of the parts and pieces. Would like to exchange ideas more later, especially on the pipe drive end. I still don't understand all the ins and outs of the different instructions. John
  5. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Hey Mickey, Just noticed something, on the file pull down in jOrgan, one of the selections is import.  It allows you to import soundfonts and one of the inputs requested is bank. on another issue,  when I open JOrgan, and pick open, none of the disposition files are listed. I loaded them in the same menu with docs, the jOrgan folder, and others. when I change the bottom selection from dispositions to all files, they come up. I suspect that I did not put them in the correct folder. Should the disposition files be in the subfolder called dispositions, that folder is in the jOrgan folder which is in the jOrgan main folder.  Also, have you been able to get the help menu to work?   Regards, John
  6. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Thorsten, Idon't understand the id code bit for the pic.  I have decided to use two cores, the first to be programmed with midio128, with 4 din (need all 128 dins), the second core will be midi064, with 64 dins, 32 for pedal on the organ the rest for stops. I plan to hook the midi064 to the MIDI in port on the midio128, and enable the merger function, and connect the midio128 to the pc. So with this configuration, what ID code do you recommend? I don't plan to use a LCD. Thanks, John
  7. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Mickey, Thanks for the input.  Didn't know that there were so many programs available. I am particularly interested in jorgan.  Looks like an extremely versitile program.  It looks like you can play any of the soundfont files from any one of the console programs. In other words. could you plan the cinema soundfonts with jorgan? I want to run two keyboards, pedal board and stop switches from my moller console. looks like jorgan when interfaced with midio128 could facilitate that. any suggestions? In the text of the websites, the name uses the comment to "put the files in Bank XX" i.e. 25, 46.  What is this referring to? Thanks for your input. I am going to do some more research and reading and will probably address questions to the forum for your input. Thanks again. John
  8. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Hello Robin, I am tracking an SC88 and a SC55 which are supposed to work, both at a good price. I don't mind putting out a little money, but my ultimate goal is to add conventional pipe ranks all, operating on MIDI.  I would eventually like to supplement the pipes with additional electronic ranks either with Hauptwerk or SCPOP or some other software.  Peterson has some electronic add on modules, but are probably expensive. Have you built and progammed your core modules yet.  How difficult was it to edit the .INI files for the unit? Literature from midibox sources  does not give rise to extreme concern for the process, but maybe i am a bit un educated in that regard.  Did you consider any other emulation software before settling on SCPOP?  What most influenced your decision to go with SCPOP?   Do you know of any midibox members or someone outside of the group, that is interested in the conversion  process. In particular for a residence installation, hybrid electronic and pipe ? email addresses would be great if they are not members of the forum. Regards, John
  9. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Robin, Thanks for the info. Do you have a source for sound canvas modules, the SC88 or similar.  Without that or similar, SCPOP is not a good solution for me. That is unless you know some way around it.  Otherwise, Hauptwerk or similar software is my solution. Are you familiar with the XG/XS convertion software. I followed a thread of links and read about such a program. You can find the link on the SCPOP website. Is this a solution for the non SC! Regards John
  10. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Scuzzle, So I could assign pins 1-64 to the Great keyboard, 65-128 to the Swell keyboard on core no. 1, assigning the channel number "1" to the first 64 , and "2" to the second 64.  I would then have to add a second core for the pedal board which only has 32 pedals, plus 10-20 stop switches (on-off switches). All this with the midiio128 core. On the output side. eventually I will add actual pipes to the organ which would be in ranks of 64. at this point possibly 5 ranks.  Could I daisey chain digital outs to the midiio128 or would I have to add additional cores to cover the 5X64 pipes?  Operating actual pipes, the PC won't be in the picture which brings up more questions. In terms of hardwire, the organ console stop switches enables the particular rank or 64 pipes. Performing the logic with midi, would mean the a stop input would enable a bank of 64 outputs being keyed from one of the keyboards or pedalboard.  How could that be done with the midi cores.  I know that I could do it with relays, but would rather do it with progamming. There are several other features to explore.  Thorsten mentioned transposition, but also:  couplings.  There are pipe ranks that play only from the swell keyboard, same for the Great and the pedal. the couplers allow you to couple ranks swell to great, great to swell, great to pedal, pedal to great, pedal to swell. There is more, but we can save them for later. I understand how the .ini file for the midi128 is customized and downloaded from the pc to the core memory.  what is the operating system for the PIC itself?  How do you load the basic operating system into the PIC? Thanks for all the info. Thorsten,  I would appreciate communicating with anyone interested in going down the conversion path. There are numerous things to deal with, and having some brainstorming time would be great.   Thanks,
  11. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    This is great. Getting some good stuff> The Hauptwerk software is configured to accept note input on channel 1 from the pedal,  32 keys; input on channel 2 from the great manual, 64 keys; and input on channel 3 from the swell manual, 64 keys. Thats 160 key inputs. As I understand it one core can be programmed to transmit  only one channel at a time, so you would need three cores just for the keyboards, each on its preprogrammed channel. If I use the IO128, all key actiion would come in on one channel and the software can't distinguish between middle c on the great from middle c on the swell. Hauptwerk also accepts switch inputs for different stops. These would be in addition to the 160 keys. Am I off base? ???
  12. Pipe organ Conversion to Midi

    Hey Scuzzle, Thanks for the info. As I understand it then, I need a midi64 core for each keyboard, each operating on a different channel. I understand a little more about the pic programming, but have much to learn. Correct me if I am wrong, but, the basic code for operation of the core is already done.  By editing the .ini file, I can download it to the PIC to customize the program to do what I need done, YES? Thanks