Jason Kitchen

Im pretty sure the RME Fireface800 I already own is up to the job of getting at least 6 internal inputs into the computer. I posted earlier as to how I plan on using this with Live. It's a Midibox64 = 6 channel mixer + Midibox64e for controlling FX parameters,On/Off, Loop in/out etc... Since I want to be able to permanently map the mixer section I don't really see how I can make it smaller/cheaper. Any Ideas? Also I'm sorry I prematurely put a number on my project. I am inclined towards Stryd_one's way of thinking. I have started looking at the wiki for the necessary items for the electronics lab and will tackle this first. Thanks, Jason

Well I have been busy reading all day. Here is what I have come up with. My idea is to incorporate a Midibox64 & Midibox64e into one case. MidiBox64 - LCD - Core - LTC - 2x AINX4 - 64 Pots - 2x DINX4 - 64 Buttons - 2x DOUTX4 - 64 LED MidiBox64e - LCD - Core - LTC - 1x DINX4 - 16 Buttons + 16 available for push button encoders - 1x DINX4 - 16 Rotary Encoders with push function - 1x DOUTX4 - 23 LED (16 button LED, 7 linear bar graph LED) Leaving 9 available LED? - 1x DOUTX4 - 16 LED rings Grand Total 64 Pots (55 Rotary Pots and 9 Linear Pots) 16 Rotary Encoders w/ push function 96 Buttons (16 of which coming from Encoders w/ push function) 103 LED (80 button LED, 7 linear bar graph LED, 16 LED rings) I do not have an electronics lab. I am sure I will have to invest a pretty penny in this area and will gladly do so. I do not consider it part of my $1,000 dollar budget for the controller. I do have the necessary tools available to me for fabrication of the case. A quick jaunt over to smashTV had the core components at around $300 dollars. So I still need to price out buttons, LED's, LCD screens, knobs for pots and encoders etc... Surely these things and materials for the case will be under $700 dollars. As always any thoughts or links to pertinent related threads would be greatly appreciated! Jason

A similar setup could be achieved with two BCR2000_Rotary and one BCF2000_Fader. This would cost nearly $500. Of course it would still not have as many knobs/buttons but it would be close. I am hoping to find myself somewhere in this price range. I will probably have to set a limit of $1,000 dollars.

Thanks for the replys so far. I have been lurking here at uCApps for sometime. I'm not gonna say I fully understand yet, but I am trying. I do realize this controller is huge and that it exceeds the limits of one midibox64. My question is can I do this with multiple Midibox64? Or should I be trying something else. Maybe even the USB keyboard Idea I saw someone else discuss in another "Live" Midibox thread. Also having looked at other midibox I thought that many LED rings may be a PITA to wire. So here is an updated picture minus the LED rings on the EQ and Send Sections as I want these knobs ALWAYS to perform these functions. I am not a fan of EQ knobs changing to Sends/FX with a push of a button. I have a trigger finger that is capable of this already. With 16 available presets. It got very confusing moving through presets. If I could get the LCD screen to display whether the encoders were in EQ or FX send mode I would consider this alternative. Also I've decided I would like to add seven 15_LED linear bar graphs to monitor levels with. I noticed some people talking about this in other threads discussing the possibility in Cubase and Sonar. What about Live? Any links to pertinent threads,wiki documentation etc... would be appreciated. As to the question of portability. I haven't even got into measuring and creating a scale model/drawing. I am not to concerned about this being to cumbersome. I am more concerned with everything being in one place. Also of course I want to know if the hardware will support my design. To talk a little bit about how I hope to use Live with this controller. This is essentially becomes a 6 channel mixer with the ARM button determining whether Live will use an internal or external source. Internally I will have 4 digital decks and 2 sampler/looper tracks. Externally I can have up to 6 stereo inputs of my choosing. I.e. 2 turntables and 1 CD deck, leaving me 3 available inputs for well... anything I want. I'd imagine the 16 Push button rotary encoder section will be used for various FX parameters and The 32 yellow Aux push buttons will be for FX on/off, for setting loops, as well as selecting tracks if necessary. Im sure I will come up with more uses never. It hurts to have more buttons updated design - 49 - rotary pots 9 - linear pots 7 - 15 LED Linear Bar Graph 22 - push button encoders with 22 LED rings 80 - LED push buttons 2 - LCD Screens Jason P.S. I still like the idea of using all encoders with LED rings around all of them. What if when I'm not using it to DJ I want to use this controller for multiple virtual instruments/fx etc? Encoders would be nice. P.S.S. Also assuming that anyones music will be more interesting to listen to because they look like they are playing a video game just doesn't make any sense to me. I will concede that you will be quite the spectacle with your video game controllers and pedal board.

55 Encoders + 16 Push Button Encoders = 71 LED rings 9 Linear Pots 80 LED Push Buttons - I would like these to turn on/off when pressed 2 LCD Screens Please forgive the noob questions, Is it possible to have this many Encoders/Push Buttons/Pots/LED rings? What kind of information can be displayed on the LCD screens? What MidiBox Project(s) should I be modeling this after? For the Filter toggle I was hoping to get some sort of LED push button that would cycle through 4 colors indicating which filter type was selected. Is this possible? My first impressions are this will take 2 Midibox64e but I am still trying to get my head around it all. Thanks in advance, Jason Kitchen *This picture has been modified to reflect changes since original post* - Current proposed design 64 Pots (55 Rotary Pots and 9 Linear Pots) 16 Rotary Encoders w/ push function 96 Buttons (16 of which coming from Encoders w/ push function) 103 LED (80 button LED, 7 linear bar graph LED, 16 LED rings)