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Could either panel mounted DIN sockets be used, and wired to the pcb, or those pcb mounted sockets that have the holes in them for panel mounting?
...i mean on the higher section? It does not look like it would be too close to the screens?
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ps if there is to be I/O on the top panel, then a case longer than 17" (84hp) would be required.
My personal preference would be that the I/O was on the rear, but ill cut whatever anyone wanted of me.
One issue that is not so easy is the card slot. That is not easy to DIY neatly. A way around this would be to cut the case roughy, and then fit a nice overlay to the back that covered the rough hand cuts.
I do not have one of the moog cases, nor a functional mbeq, so, whilst i could check the top panel, it would be hard for me to confirm the rear.
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That certainly looks like it would do the job - good find!
I reckon the back panel would be good for ports, but it would require some work.
I can have a look at the CAD to see if the CS pcb will fit behind a euro panel. Its obviously fine on 3u, but euro has that bit less height.
I have no attachment to my proposed case - what i said in my initial post is 100% true - it is simply a solution to the lack of heinrich cases - so if there is another option, i would very much support that also.
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Ok, time to get my act together on this one, and start ordering up parts.
I have recently acquired a load of reclaimed mahogany which i think will make great ends for these too.
I did ask before for PMs from those who were seriously interested, and i think i only got a couple. Either my request was missed, or... ?
Please include your email address in your request, as i will confirm via email (i find the forum delays message notifications sometimes, whilst email is swifter)
If you are one of the (very) few who have previously messaged, might i ask you to re-confirm and to include your email?
The reason i need to know is that the rails have crazy postage / cutting costs, and i could really do with knowing numbers before ordering, as re-ordering will be a pain.
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Hello,
I need to put some time and money in to convert the prototype design (as seen in the photo) to a "final" revision, and ive just not done that yet, because i did not feel there was much demand.
I should probably just go ahead and complete it though...
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...going afk now, but mail me if you need to.
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Ok, sounds like the bud box with a rack front is what you need then.
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If you want to, you could use one of the bud boxes for the rear.
I have a design for a 17" bud box, but it would be easy enough to add rack ears to the file, so you could make a shallow rack mount.
Are you wanting to rack, or are you wanting a desktop?
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You can just use any generic rack case that has a flat front.
If you were uk based, i could point you to a selection of retailers, but im sure there are similar over your way.
Eg this one would be fine -
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Ive just added an "item" to my shop - a combination deal for the mb6582 build.
Includes one pactec pt10 case (nos), and one set of mb6582 panels.
These cases are cheaper in the states than in europe, so, whilst its still cheap for americans, its an even better deal for anyone in europe.
Here is the link -
http://thebeast.co.uk/?product=mb6582-pactec-pt10-combo-deal
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My PCBs turned up this morning, so im going to start checking some dimensions, and get these cases sorted.
Obviously the design is not 'final' at the moment, but the delivery cost on the curved sections is so high that it would be sensible for me to get a show of hands as to who would like one of these, at the projected price (GBP 170) with the discussed alterations. Shipping will be at cost.
The ends on the finished units will probably be oiled oak. The top and rear panels will be engraved. Tops will be black text on silver, or, if you would rather, white text on back. Same for the rear panels. The curved sections have to be silver.
Rear panel will be cut for the new core, with the expansion port, and the Midi and Quad-IIc-MIDI boards.I wont condemn you if you express interest, and dont purchase, but please dont ask at this stage unless you are seriously considering the purchase, as i dont really want to over-order a load of parts.I would rather a PM than a +1 on the thread here. Do both if you wish!Thank you,Julian -
The case will have to have some tilt, to accommodate for the rear panel components, just maybe not as much.
It seems that you probably have "your" bolts though! : )
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Current status on the cases with the curved edges is that -
Im waiting on some pcbs from modular addict, and then ill check some measurements for the new core, and alter the design a little. I hope to make the case flatter also (ie a lower back panel, so less tilt)
Ill probably change the bolts too, as evreyone seems to want countersunk ones.
Then ill make some more. Limiting factor is mainly how long modular addict takes to ship the pcbs.
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no, probably the ac-433 from this link -
http://www.budind.com/view/Aluminum+Enclosure/Aluminum+Chassis
Ive not confirmed that it will work, but i cant see why it wouldnt. The top is aprox 25mm deeper than needed, but then the heinrich cases require bits cut of of the rails to make the screen mounts fit, so its not like a little extra clearance would be that terrible.
Most of the rear panel holes (for most users) are round, so easily diy-able. The usb socket is not, but possible to do by hand. The SD card is not really needed, as it can be done over usb anyhow.
It may not be quite as elegant as the Heinrich case, but the total package would probably come in at less than half the cost. Wooden end cheeks etc. could be added by the end user as required.
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Hello,
Panels can be a range of colours, as can the text, however, the curved profile can only be silver - which is why i kept the panel silver to match.
The nuts on the ends can not be recessed, as they are actually nuts, and not bolts. Well, they could be recessed, but then the recess would have to be large enough to take a socket to fit over the nut. Allen fasteners are not possible.
Another option that i have been considering, which would be a load cheaper, is to just make up top panels for the Bud case that is a little over 3u in 'depth'. Last time i looked the cases were about GBP 30ish. If i cut a top panel, builders could then drill the rear to match their chosen config. More work for the end user, and less elegant, but cheaper.
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bumping this -
everything purchased has now been shipped, but there is one sale unit remaining...
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The mb6582 panels are 1.5mm, so gluing over the screen hole at the rear of the panel will give a 1.5mm step, however, this also means that the edge of the screen does not need to be perfect at all - as it is not visible at all.
You could hack a bit of a CD case apart with a kitchen knife, and it would not matter, so long as you can make the clear section flush with the back of the panel.
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I think that i charged GBP 140 for the test unit in the photos with the panels. Production units would probably be more like GBP 170 ish, again, with the panels. (maybe a little cheaper if i could make / sell even a handful together - but my intention is to get away from rigid group buy restrictions!)
I think the last run of the Heidenreich cases ran to GBP 110 or 120 each without panels, so i would like to think the inclusive price above would be attractive.
The case is (not exactly) a loss leader for me. I would rather just sell the panels, but, id hope, the availability of a cheaper case (that does not require awkward group buys) will enable more builders to complete the device (and, hence, generate more panel sales!)
There are a couple of ways that i have considered to reduce the cost further, but they require volume, and i would rather provide this option now, rather than make promises for the future.
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Thread revival -
Now that the CS boards are available again, im wondering if i should be making some of these cases?
Anyone interested?
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To "celebrate" the mb6582 boards being back in stock, ive listed a handful of panel sets in my "shop" at a 20% off reduced rate.
Given that these panels are quite expensive, this is a great saving - they work out at GBP 64 for the set (which, i think, is LESS than half FPDs price?)
The sale items are all matt black with white text, as per the item in the top right of this photo -
There are only 5 sets available at this price though. The shop manages inventory, so, if theyre not listed, theyre gone.Here is your link -
http://thebeast.co.uk/?product=sale-midibox-mb6582-panel-set-20-off
If you were considering building a SID device, getting one of these, rather than a panel from FPD, will lower your build cost considerably!
Happy building!
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17 hours ago, ilmenator said:
I see. Where can we obtain them from? The Wiki?
I think that, over the years, you have spoken with me about nothing more than this... : (
Your ongoing focus would certainly imply to me that you think that i am under obligation?
(i know that this is the same question as i asked you in my last post, but you chose not to answer me then, so i must ask again)
This is one of the times -In that instant, i was not only able to answer you, but also to link you to where i had supplied that information to others before you even asked. Then, as now, i think that most would assume that you did not want that information - that you were just checking to see if i would release it.
Let me be 100% clear to you -
There is no one here who has asked me for any work that is a derivative of these designs, and has not been supplied what they have asked for - including yourself!
If you do choose to reply, i really would appreciate an answer to my own question.
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Just now, ilmenator said:
Julian,
will you make the cut files available so that anybody with a CNC router can reproduce your frontpanels? Or would you rather people start from the frontpanel drawings that have been created in the past?
As i understand it, i can not fail to supply any files that i hold that are derivatives of open source projects.
Do you disagree with this?
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Does this handling cause a problem at your side?
Members of this group are about to be asked to "risk" money on an untested pcb, when a confirmed good copy of the same exists, and has existed, for years.
I find this very confusing, given my (possibly inaccurate) assumptions as to the community benefit nature of the project.
I find page 4 of this thread almost beyond description. You can, I'm sure, understand my concern.
http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/11096/midibox-swinsid/
Is there anywhere where i can clarify the exact terms of the licence / licences, such as there can be no errors made?
Possible new case option, without needing Heidenreich group buys
in MIDIbox SEQ
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I have edited the first post of this thread with a member list - if your name is not on the list, i will not make a case for you! : )