[TK.]

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Having corrected that issue, I've found 0.2 seems to work fine. Except I can't seem to upload
'v2_vintage_bank.syx'
from the SID V2 release folder/Presets. I get a message
"This file does not contain a bank with 64 or 128 valid patches!'.

Works fine at my side

Which MBSID release are you using? It could make sense to download the latest and to try it again (just to ensure, that you haven't changed the file somehow so that it is corrupted)

Best Regards, Thorsten.

[toneburst]

That's odd; the sysex file must have got corrupted somehow...
I downloaded it again (it was the same version I had before, from the 'midibox_sid_v2_0_rc26' release), and this time it works!

Cheers,

a|x

[nILS]

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could you check if this new release also solves your issue?

Yep, it did :-)

[Labelwhore]

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could you check if this new release also solves your issue?

Yep, it did :-)

Very nice! I had noticed that, but thought it was just something on my end. I'll have to try the new realease when I get home from work today.

[TK.]

A new editor version v0.4 is available: Download

Main changes:

• some parts now use the same classes like MIOS Studio to improve overall robustness of the java tools
  
• Ensemble librarian added!
  
• Ensemble editor added!
  
• Multiple selection possible (to send multiple patches at once, copy multiple at the same time, etc.
  NOTE: for some functions (i.e. upload a patch to the buffer) doesn't make sense. In this case the first item of the selection is taken as 'the one').
  
• Improved SysEx handling, better Sysex-bug workaround (RC27 slave don't crash anymore).

The visualisation of ensemble data will be improved later (e.g. MIDI Notes are currently displayed as a number, MIDI channel is counted from 0 instead of 1, etc...) - we thought, that releasing a version which allows to edit an ensemble is more important (especially for users who haven't built a control surface yet) than the cosmetic stuff.

/Edit: complete changelog:
Complete ChangeLog:

• play and panic buttons added in Sysex editor
  
• default startup tab in librarian is now bank A
  
• better init functions (loading from internal syx files)
  
• multiple selection functionality added (solution for 64 entry banksticks)
  
• ensemble editor added
  
• ensemble librarian added
  
• check loading midi setup (strange behavior!)
  
• oscillator link or stereo link would not update the internal patch properly
  
• retaining settings of midi configuration
  
• improved sysex handler (makes use of new sysex commands in RC19)
  
• simplified midi routing
  
• fix alot of minor bugs
  
• improved drum sequencer representation
  
• fixed sysex handler for Mac
  
• improved WaveTable representation
  
• arpeggiator patterns UD2 and DU2 missing
  
• modulation inversion buttons not working properly
  
• fixed values as modulation source not working properly
  
• LFO One shot button added
  
• LFO Key sync shortcut added
  
• Reorganized tabs
  
• LFO sine wave button not behaving properly
  
• name mistake in lead engine parameter list
  
• wrong cc's above knob assignment
  
• rate knob labels did not follow MIDI sync on/off from patch

Best Regards, Thorsten.

[stryd_one]

Jeeepers, someone's been busy! Thanks again guys!

[Matrix12x]

nice work.
I'm going to use the hell out of it this weekend.

[nILS]

Yay! Updates! ;D

[Imp]

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• play and panic buttons added in Sysex editor

nice one!
I had a frozen note yesterday, which was out of range for all of my Keyboards...it made me restart everything ;)

Edit: I Haven't found it yet...any hint where to look?

[mesak]

top!! though i didn't have chance to test the new version & ensembles out really. i uploaded some patches w the editor to SID and played some sounds until quite soon it freezed. i don't think it necessarily has anything to do with the new version of the editor - the older version made SID freeze sometimes too. but this time the synth kept booting and sending the upload request again and again. i tried to upload the setup_6851.hex a couple of time and even the MIOS with no luck.

what could make the SID hang permanently this way, known issue? how the hell can i slap it awake again!?

peace

[TK.]

If you are working under Windows, it definitely makes sense to try the update!
The issue is, that the Windows Java version sends invalid data to MBSID once the stream length varies, and this can cause strange effects (also hangups)

We found a workaround which should solve this.

It also makes sense to use the latest MBSIDV2 firmware release (>= RC28) - in general, it will be very difficult to find an explanation for effects you noticed with tool/firmware versions which don't match together, or which are outdated.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

P.S.: this isn't the MBSID Editor thread - I moved your posting

[mesak]

ok!

but for now my SID is constantly booting and booting whether midi is connected or not. uploading the firmware again didn't solve that. i hope the CORE (?) hasn't been messed up for real.

[TK.]

Could you please copy&paste the debug messages of the MIOS Studio upload window when you are trying to upload MIOS?
/Edit: the same when you are uploading the MBSID firmware

Best Regards, Thorsten.

[rutgerv]

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• play and panic buttons added in Sysex editor

nice one!
I had a frozen note yesterday, which was out of range for all of my Keyboards...it made me restart everything ;)

Edit: I Haven't found it yet...any hint where to look?

Haha, you're correct! It isn't there. I have already implemented it, but these changes didn't make it into this release. I'm working on some other features at the moment, so there will probably be another release shortly.

[rutgerv]

BTW: nice to see that many people are enjoying the editor! Does someone already have a set of patches, that he/she's willing to share? After I fixed the last TODO's for the editor I'll finish up on the promised bank of polyphonic patches and share them with you!

Do we already have a place for file exchange? Or do we make that a new topic? Sysex files are small, so uploading with a post woudn't be a problem I think.

Best,

Rutger

[Imp]

yeah, right...patch exchange is an aspect of the editor, which makes it even more useful, even if you got the complete CS...

BTW: I think I found a Bug:
when i  use Envelope2 via MOD2  to control cutoff (as "direct" or Target 1/2 doesn't matter), it does not work.
I compared the values shown by the editor with those on my Sid, the only difference was at the depth of Envelope 2, which was at 0 on the sid.
As i can reproduce this, i don't think it's related to any lost or fragmented midi-data.

[Flemming]

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BTW: nice to see that many people are enjoying the editor! Does someone already have a set of patches, that he/she's willing to share? After I fixed the last TODO's for the editor I'll finish up on the promised bank of polyphonic patches and share them with you!

Do we already have a place for file exchange? Or do we make that a new topic? Sysex files are small, so uploading with a post woudn't be a problem I think.

Best,

Rutger

Thanks for all your efforts in making the MBSID editor!! It's a lovely piece of software, and i look forward to play with your polyphonic patches also :)

I haven't spent that much time exploring my MBSID to start doing my own patches yet (still building) but i surely will.... i do a lot of different genres though so it might end up being a pretty uneven bunch. But first i need to get familiar with the structure of the synth, hehe... messing around with the 128 vintage patches none of them seems to react on velocity, but that can very well be yet another a screwup from my side :)

nILS mentioned a few days ago that he was looking into some online patchsharing concept. Such a thing will definately be easier to use than surfing a long thread for attachments...

[rutgerv]

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yeah, right...patch exchange is an aspect of the editor, which makes it even more useful, even if you got the complete CS...

BTW: I think I found a Bug:
when i  use Envelope2 via MOD2  to control cutoff (as "direct" or Target 1/2 doesn't matter), it does not work.
I compared the values shown by the editor with those on my Sid, the only difference was at the depth of Envelope 2, which was at 0 on the sid.
As i can reproduce this, i don't think it's related to any lost or fragmented midi-data.

Thanks for the report! I'll check, and if it's a bug I'll fix it with the next release. I have spent so much time on implementing new features lately, that I didn't have time for a lot of testing, but I will get to that soon. However, the improvements I made are so substantial that I wanted everyone to be able to benefit from them. I also highly appreciate your input as 'beta' users.

[mesak]

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Could you please copy&paste the debug messages of the MIOS Studio upload window when you are trying to upload MIOS?
/Edit: the same when you are uploading the MBSID firmware

Best Regards, Thorsten.

sorry, i have no a clue what happened here. a day off from studio had stopped the SID's constant booting. uploading didn't give any errors now or before. i will pay attention if i come up with this again.

but i think i found a bug in the new editor version:
saving to bankstick (transmit patch to memory) doesn't work anymore. in v0_2 patches were stored succesfully to memory, but now with v0_4 when transmitting there is nothing special, like error messages etc, but when patch is loaded again it hasn't been overwritten.

i'm using 24LC256 instead of 512, so might that be causing some problems (since someone else should have noticed this too for sure)? i tried again with older editor and it really does store the patches properly to the bankstick.

thanks!

[Flemming]

I experience the same behaviour actually.... if i transmit a patch to buffer my MIDI interface is flashing, indicating that data is sent. But if i transmit to memory no flashing occurs and the patch does not change.

I know it worked for me in the last version... i have a fucked up practicing patch that definately suffers from my experiments, so data has surely been transmitted in the past :)

I use a single 512 bankstick