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Push-able GP Rotary Encs


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Hi !

I bought Rotary Encs with push button ability : you can turn it or push it.

PEC11-4220K-S0024 on Mouser

This is my first project, so i never play with a MidiBox yet :)

I thought it would be nice to merge GP buttons with GP rotary encs.

BUT then i realizes : this is not handy to mute/unmute multiple tracks at once (as i love to do with my yamaha rs7000) :pirate: .

so i thought that i could keep actual GP buttons and rotary, and use the push function of the rotary encs

as an alternate way to select a track (as left side buttons group & tracks do)..

What do you think of that ? is it easy to implement ? if you have any clue ...

Thanks a lot !

have a nice bit of year (as we say here in Southern France :ahappy: )

Best regards,

Thomas

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Hi maigre,

also think of the possibility of encoder value entry acceleration (increased speed of change, no need to turn endlessly for larger changes), when it is depressed and turned which is a very very nice feature of the elektron (machinedrum etc) boxes and which is very intuitive - up to an amount, that you want to push down any encoder you encounter in real life just to "speed up things", nearly broke the car radio of my government last time ;-)

TK has added support for "temporary fast" in one of the latest betas after my request - (thx again :-)).

IMHO it is the best use for the push buttons of the gp encoders.

Bye,

Peter

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In my control surface PCB, I put pads for the extra pins for encoders with switches so all the switches are in parallel and on a single DIN input, so you could use them for the "temporary fast" function. However, the Re'an P401 knob (which I used) will grab the encoder bushing when you push them down, and they can get stuck down, so I haven't used them this way (yet). That could be fixed by disassembling the encoder and filing down the bushing by 1mm or so, which I will probably do when I build up my 2nd MB-SEQ.

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Wilba, what I always wanted to know - how did you have the foresight, that "temporary fast" is coming ;-) ?

Greetz to downunder and have a good new year!

(Btw. the alps stec12e08 are working very nicely when depressed and rotated and are relatively cheap in germany, 1.90eur per piece)

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In my control surface PCB, I put pads for the extra pins for encoders with switches so all the switches are in parallel and on a single DIN input, so you could use them for the "temporary fast" function. However, the Re'an P401 knob (which I used) will grab the encoder bushing when you push them down, and they can get stuck down, so I haven't used them this way (yet). That could be fixed by disassembling the encoder and filing down the bushing by 1mm or so, which I will probably do when I build up my 2nd MB-SEQ.

Just a thought: "don't lower the floor, raise the ceiling" - I had a similar problem on another device. My solution was to put a small spacer inside the knob, making it sit a little higher on the spindle. Of course on your panel it might be aesthetically unacceptable, but it's a possible answer, and a lot less messy than filing.

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