Rio Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 P.S.: could you please check if the LED matrix is working correctly with following setup:i can, but only at evening.... i'm on work yet.Best Regards, Rio and thx for fast support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 ok, then directly try out rc4 this evening (link: see first article of this thread)The number of SRIOs is now configurable in the setup_*.asm file, and it's 10 by defaultThe settings for TK_OPTION and USE_SINKDRIVER has vanished.Now there is only a variation between MB6582 and "normal" approach anymore.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes it's shown correctly!! ;) What is new/changed in RC5? How do i got the application simple cloned to the others pic's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 How do i got the application simple cloned to the others pic's?Hold down menu button when powering on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 If the menu button is directly connected to the DIN (no usage of a button matrix), the button has to be pressed while the MBSID version number is displayed. Just press it multiple times to ensure that the event will be notified...Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 great application.. i'd checked out the box last weekend. I've only a question to the matrix (for easier work):it's possible to pre-selected the assigned EG or LFO, while pushing the horizontal buttons of the matrix (like in old application)? so that i've a direct access to current activated option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Pressing the Modulation Source buttons (horizontal row of buttons) jumps the menu to the corresponding modulation row. Holding Shift button while pressing Modulation Source buttons jumps the menu to the default modulation source (i.e. Env1, Env2, LFO1, LFO2, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Holding Shift button mhh...sounds a bit complicated, but i've to check out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euphoricgrey Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 So... I've only got 1 6581 sid chip so far. I'd like to do the stereo setup using 2 of the sid's but... i should prolly have 8580's in there instead so... I need to track down 1 more 6581 and 2 8580's... it's getting hard these days. I can't see spending 40 bucks on a commodore just to ge 1 chip that might be the wrong one I'm looking for anyway, lol.Now... is it safe to start working on the V2 one? I'd rather be able to have 4 seperate mono signals or 2 stereo's using a pair of each of the different chips.I just saw it is in beta so... Just making sure the partslist are all finalized so I can start on this baby! Thanks so much guys! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 MBSID V2.0 has already reached its final state; currently the release candidates will be published with the last bugfixes of corner cases (which most people wouldn't notice anyhow). Just today I found an imperfection in the drum voice allocation when Mono mode is activated.It's fixed in rc6Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narwhal Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 RC6 is giving me issues during the cloning process. It perfoms the cloning on core 2 then hang when it gets to "waiting for reset". Eventually it times out and boots up with a * on core 2. I've tested by switching back to RC5 and it works perfectly.If you'd like any more information on the issue, just let me know. The situation is 100% repeatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I haven't changed something on the cloning mechanism in any rc* releaseCould you please try the following: press the MENU button once the MBSID version number is displayed (don't press is during the boot process). This ensures that all cores are ready for receiving the update request.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narwhal Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 hmm no change when I wait for the "Mios V1.9f" display before pressing menuit clones (the address counts up)then its get stuck onCloning Slave 01Waiting for ResetIf I got back to RC5, this part works perfectly. It moves on to Cloning to the other slaves.If I reboot it, the application will show SID 2's status as * and it wont let me select it.I'd try to debug it further myself, but I havent had the time to get the compiler working yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narwhal Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 I just switched to using the jumper method and I've noticed another strange thingWhen I've used the jumper method before I could swear that the core 1 would be aware of the update and not continue to boot up. When I switched the jumper to core 2 and uploaded to device ID 1, I noticed that core 1 continued to boot right into the SID V2 app. Is that normal?Thanks for the help TK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narwhal Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 More info:Now that I've used the jumper method to attempt to update Cores 2, 3, and 4 It seems clear that RC6 is simply not run on my cores 2, 3, or 4 at all.I've updated each one, and the MIOS Studio transfer said each transfer went fine "Upload process complete" with all checksums OK, but now when I boot I seeE002|A001 Ld Chn. 11***|Lead PatchIt will not switch to any SID other than 1.Strange indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 It definitely is strange, as nobody has reported this issue before. There are only 4 lines of additional code I inserted into RC6, and it's only related to voice allocation.Today I checked typical cases which could lead to such effects, e.g. uploading setup_mb6582.hex instead of setup_tk.hex, reviewing the code at the 64k boundary, uploading rc5/rc6 and back to rc5 - but I wasn't able to reproduce this.Please: could anybody who uses a MB6582 please confirm, that cloning is still working, and that the slave cores are running?Narwhal: it could be helpful to know the MBNet and application state - just create a SRAM dump of 0x000 (range 0x80) and 0x600 (range 0x80) with MIOS Studio as shown in this picture:and copy&paste the hex output into your posting.Note that I've selected device ID 1 at the left upper corner. The MIDI output is jumpered accordingly.It would also be interesting to know, why you are waiting for the MIOS boot screen instead of the MBSID version number screen as suggested. This screen follows after the MIOS boot screen. Could it be, that it is not shown on your setup?Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Please: could anybody who uses a MB6582 please confirm, that cloning is still working, and that the slave cores are running? I upgraded RC5 to RC6 with cloning, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narwhal Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 First the good news: I did get it working just fine, more on that below.Tk, Sorry I misunderstood which boot screen you were asking me to press the menu button on. For several updates now it has always worked even when I held it down as I flipped the power switch on. Also of note, is that until today, I've always uploaded new application using "wait for upload request before starting" then powering on the Mb-6582. The first thing I tried today is holding the button later in the MB-6582 app version boot screen and it still didnt work. I'll use your recommended method from now on.I am using setup_mb6582.HEX just to clarify because I don't think I've specified that in previous posts. I am uploading this to my MB-6582, so I assume that is the correct app.Just for kicks I've uploaded setup_tk.hex - clearly not the app I want. BUT!!! when I uploaded setup_mb6582.hex after this and then pressed menu at the time you suggest.. IT WORKED! I must have had something in memory really hosing things up, that got cleared out by uploading another application.If I can get it back into that weird state again, I'll dump the SRAM for you. So far its downgraded and upgraded between RC5 and RC6 and is cloning fine on both now. Not sure what qualifies for Wilba's *WHACK* but I could give this box a few right now :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Good to hear!Not sure what qualifies for Wilba's *WHACK* but I could give this box a few right now :-)*whack* is the reminder I give people so they know I'm smiling and making a joke, not being serious or intentionally insulting them.While TK's MB-SID V2 is brilliant programming, it's not an artificial intelligence and does not perceive humour nor can it be offended, therefore MB-6582 does not require a *whack*. However, in future you should try waving a dead chicken over hardware that doesn't work. Some people think this is just an idiom, but I actually use a real chicken *whack* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Yeh, JimP has a problem with smilies, since I pointed out that smilies were a necessary evil (so people know you're joking when they can't see your face), these goons have started replacing a smiley with *whack*. Personally I think the lead fumes are kicking in! ;D Long live the smiley!The dead chook is extremely effective though, and thanks for the link Wilba that site is great ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 However, in future you should try waving a dead chicken over hardware that doesn't work. This excellent advice, voodoo is my go-to approach when I have a problem that I cant seem to track down. Some cigar smoke, a little hair, and chicken (in live, fried, or nugget form) and bam, problem is solved. I believe the technical term for this is HPFM (hocus pocus, focking magic)*whack* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I prefer dead squirrels - they have to have died a natural death though (being run over by a car for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 @tk: I've the SID V2 application running on a second device with a 2x16 LCD (So i switched in mode 4 in asm). The problem is following:1. if i rotate the "depth" encoder of LFO, it will not shown on Display (the LCD switched not to the correct visual position). 2. the main menu shows a ">" on the right side. But i can't choose the menu options because the "menu" encoder will change the "ensemble".3. Filter:------Why 6581 SIDs are pre-defined in asm from 000 to 600? Hiigher values than 600, will change the filter too, at my 6581R3 and normal 6581 SIDs and gives more range for LFOs...4. Filter 6581R4:---------------if i use 2x 6581R4 SIDs, instead 2xR3 -> nothing will be heard on same SID boards, if i activate Low- and bandpass for both sids. only in HP area some noises are noticable.. Is there a reason for that behaviour? Someone notices the same?5. Volume---------is it possible to give the volume more range? If i activate them with LFo, i only notice very small changes (independent from sid type) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euphoricgrey Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I'm about to order parts for my v2 sid to be and I"m wondering...Do you guys reccomend only using the 8580's now adays with v2 orwould it still be okay to use 2 8580's for a stereo pairand then a pair of 6581's.I only have 1 8581 sid right now and I have to get all the solder off the legs.so i'm in the hunt for chips. Thanks! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted October 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 1. if i rotate the "depth" encoder of LFO, it will not shown on Display (the LCD switched not to the correct visual position).Ok, a variation for CS_MENU_DISPLAYED_ITEMS == 4 has to be added to cs_menu_enc_table.incthe main menu shows a ">" on the right side. But i can't choose the menu options because the "menu" encoder will change the "ensemble".hm! sh* happened - for this I don't know a solution yet/edit: discussion here: http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.0Why 6581 SIDs are pre-defined in asm from 000 to 600?they are pre-defined to 0..fff in setup_6581.asmHiigher values than 600, will change the filter too, at my 6581R3 and normal 6581 SIDs and gives more range for LFOs...I guess that you made an error by uploading setup_8580.asm instead of setup_6581.asm?In this case, a "virgin ensemble bankstick" will be completely initialized with the default values for 8580So, you need to change the correct range manually nowis it possible to give the volume more range? If i activate them with LFo, i only notice very small changes (independent from sid type)just increase the depth of the modulation path - it's 64 by default, max value is 127Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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