Sasha Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I`ve been called pessimist here on the forum but now you beat me. ;)About those Orient negative LCDs...well, I`ve seen non-photoshopped image, and I must say that it really is not far from image presented here, but it is certain that picture is "optimized" fort web (shop). ;DI definitely need to get at least one for myself. Green becomes bit boring, and blue make me sick. Red or white, especially negative are very nice. Ah, .. PLEDs!? :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted October 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 well then only approval from Wilba :-* , and red_lcd_bulk_order can become reality! btw now i check for discounts on quantities; from orientdisplay directly it's beginning :o 300pcs and up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 In that case, maybe we should just order ourselves?? Looks like i'll be buying one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 let's wait for the official reply from shopeio.com/eio.com before. i've asked them about 15-25pcs discount. still got no answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I`ve been called pessimist here on the forum but now you beat me. ;)No I disagree, I wasn't saying that these should be avoided, just expressing my frustration at -all- LCD manufacturers and their tendency to 'fix up' the images. No matter whether you are buying a $5 LCD or a $40 LCD, the marketing shots all look like a PLED. You never really know what you're getting until you buy it and solder it up, and by then it's too late for a refund if they aren't as-advertised. It sucks! But it's nothing wrong with these LCDs in particular. It's a general problem with the industry.About those Orient negative LCDs...well, I`ve seen non-photoshopped image, and I must say that it really is not far from image presented hereSorry but I don't believe that for a second.... Even the PLEDs don't look that good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Oh BTW... CF = Orient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 It's a shame with the photoshopped LCDs. BTW, if anyone wonders how to find out - if you find an LCD wit black background, just check the colors using photoshop or any other graphics app - if the black around the letters is RGB(0,0,0) it's definitely a fake =) Often it's really easy to tell that it's a fake when there's no cables plugged in or soldered to it. And that's what's really scaring me about pollin. All LCDs there are taken at different angles, the font on the display matches perspective perfectly, there's noise everywhere, it all looks absolutely real, except for the fact that the displays are not hooked up to anything =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 And that's what's really scaring meThat's what I'm trying to say - don't be scared off by this dodgy sales tactic - because you will find that everyone does it, good bad and inbetween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokiPsiho Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 if the black around the letters is RGB(0,0,0) it's definitely a fake =)it's probably web optimized, there is no 16M colors on that imageQuote from: Sasha on Yesterday at 17:41About those Orient negative LCDs...well, I`ve seen non-photoshopped image, and I must say that it really is not far from image presented hereSorry but I don't believe that for a second.... Even the PLEDs don't look that good!he said it's not far, and he's rightedit: in last picture I managed to set camera not to pickup and amplify redish background but still not perfect. this is how it looks in daylight, background is almost completely black. when there is complete dark in the room you can see a slight red on background coming trough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 he said it's not far, and he's rightWell I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that but it does look nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Well, i'd say it's pretty bloody far from the pic, but I actually think the real shots look even better!! That is the display i've been waiting for, I want one now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 .... or maybe an amber coloured one ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 well then, amigos. ;)official replies from:Shopeio.com: We can offer 25pcs at $22.50each.OrientDispaly.com: The price is US$20/each for 15 to 25pcs, Lead time: 4 weeks Effective on August 1st, 2007, our company name is changed to AV Display (North America) Ltd.original shipping (from shopeio) is $16 for Usps_International_airmail per piece, we can get it other way cheaper.for US, FedEx ground is $7, Canada by USPS and it's $10.i suppose north americas can order for themselves as it's pretty fair for them?and other midiboxers can get into europe group buy.i set new thread for europe/(MIDDLE EAST! ;)) order.http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=9999.msg74119#msg74119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 sent query to crystalfontz about CFAH2004A-RTI-JP ::)(Just for the record)reply from Crystalfonts: Currently, they do not manufacture these, but they'll see what they can do about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 well CrystalFonts another reply:We can manufacture a CFAH2004A-RTI-JP - there is a 300 piece MOQ (minimum order quantity) on this part as it not a completely standard part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinz Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 well CrystalFonts another reply: Will these be any cheaper and of better quality. 300 sounds like an awful lot though. I do like the idea of being able to say."yes, the displays nice, we got them made especially" 8) In reality does this mean that Crystal fonts will be paying somebody to manually de-solder the LEDS fromt he green version and swapping them for red LEDs? ;D G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenclements Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Well, i'd say it's pretty bloody far from the pic, but I actually think the real shots look even better!! That is the display i've been waiting for, I want one now! I have to agree with you... that doesn't look too shabby!I'd like to get one of these two... I building two of these lovelies and I need another LCD, this would look cool!Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Wellington Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 well CrystalFonts another reply:I have also asked CrystalFontz about the RTI displays, but I asked for the 40x2 size. (Same 300 minimum.) They only make the RTI in a 16x2 at the moment, so I'm going to test one of those out (I'll post pictures when I get it) to see if it's worth looking into the 300 minimum. That's enough for 150 Midibox SEQ's... Are there another 149 of you interested in a group buy? :o ;DDoughttp://www.analognotes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobass Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Did anything happen with this in the end? If not were there any more Red Negative options out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoshka Posted January 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=9999.msg74119#msg74119you can order them from shopeio.com directly, model AMC2004A-B-T6WTDR, by OrientDisplayhttp://character-lcd-lcds.shopeio.com/inventory/details.asp?id=1287&cat=Lcds&sub=Character%20Lcdor set another bulk if Smash not gonna stock them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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