i45one Posted December 21, 2007 Report Posted December 21, 2007 I don't know if it would be of interest to anyone. But I found C64 supplies for ~5.00 USD. I think there is a minimum order with them though. It would probably have to be a group buy. EDIT: I bit the bullet and contacted the guy. Ill post what comes of it.The link is:http://www.73.com/specialist.php?specialist=ted&stock_no=MB392&cat_no=0040S&title=RECOTON%209VAC%2F9VA%20%26%209VAC%2F9VA%20%26%205VDC%2F8.5W%20SET%20TOP%20POWER%20SUPPLY&desc=Recoton%20C-1004,%20DV-512CM.%209VAC%2F9VA%20%26%209VAC%2F9VA%20%26%205VDC%2F8.5W.%20UL.%20Desktop%20type.%203-Prong%20grounded%20type%20AC%20plug%20on%206'%20c%61ble.%206'%20output%20c%61ble%20termin%61ted%20in%20din%20type%20plug.EDIT by SmashTV: Added to subject to clear up mains voltage confusion. Quote
bugfight Posted December 21, 2007 Report Posted December 21, 2007 this looks interesting, but it looks like it has 2 9vac sections instead of 1...also, would it make sense to find a lower power psu?hmmm time to measure current draw on mb-6582... Quote
i45one Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Posted December 21, 2007 If my memory serves, these are later C64C supplies. I don't think there are 2 9vac supplies in them. I'll research it a bit more. Regardless, they would work beautifully with our midiboxen. I need to start a tally to get a pricing. I must state this though, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN HANDLING A GROUP BUY. They want a firm quantity before they set any pricing. Quote
bugfight Posted December 21, 2007 Report Posted December 21, 2007 If my memory serves, these are later C64C supplies. I don't think there are 2 9vac supplies in them. I'll research it a bit more. the description implies two 9vac sections:RECOTON 9VAC/9VA & 9VAC/9VA & 5VDC/8.5W SET TOP POWER SUPPLYRegardless, they would work beautifully with our midiboxen. better not to waste an unused 9vac section.or do you want to destroy the earth? *whack*(it's a joke, stryd, see the *whack*?)I need to start a tally to get a pricing. I must state this though, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN HANDLING A GROUP BUY. They want a firm quantity before they set any pricing. i'm confused, why do you need a tally if you have no interest in a group buy? Quote
i45one Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Posted December 21, 2007 Recoton Model C-1004 is a verified C64 supply. 9VAC+5VCD only. I don't care what they listed, I'm going by other specs. I had one of these on one of my 64's a long time ago. And forget the tally. I let my curiosity get the better of me. If someone does decide to do a group buy and the price is good, Id be in for at least 5 myself. Quote
Doug Wellington Posted December 22, 2007 Report Posted December 22, 2007 Since I don't have a power supply for my MB-6582 yet, I am very interested in this, assuming it is indeed the correct power supply. I contacted the guy and asked for a quote on 100 of them...Doughttp://www.analognotes.com/mb808 Quote
Wilba Posted December 22, 2007 Report Posted December 22, 2007 I suggest Doug proceed with arranging a bulk order, instead of everyone annoying this guy with quotes for one.Recoton Model C-1004 is a verified C64 supply. 9VAC+5VCD only.Even with this recommendation for the C-1004, it's best to check one before buying a lot. "Terminated in DIN type plug" sounds promising though and if I was in the U.S. I'd buy one to check... unfortunately they are no good to me here in Australia with 240V mains, even after swapping the power plug ;DAlso this link is for a C64 PSU, found it in the "COMPUTERS - COMMODORE PARTS & EQUIPMENT" section: 9VAC/6.7WATT & 5VDC/7.5 WATT SET TOP TRANSFORMER9VAC/6.7W & 5VDC/7.5W. Commodore 310157-02. UL/CSA. Black set top supply. $5.50 Ea/130, $7.50 Ea/10. 113 in stock CS017 Contact ted, the specialist for this product http://www.73.com/specialist.php?specialist=ted&stock_no=CS017&cat_no=0222S&title=9VAC%2F6.7WATT%20%26%205VDC%2F7.5%20WATT%20SET%20TOP%20TRANSFORMER&desc=9VAC%2F6.7W%20%26%205VDC%2F7.5W.%20Commodore%20310157-02.%20UL%2FCSA.%20Bl%61ck%20set%20top%20supply. Quote
ganchan Posted December 22, 2007 Report Posted December 22, 2007 this will be interesting if this PS are quite new, mine, all very used, burn the fuse many times, and i'm shure, i've not shorts contacts on my board.. 8) Quote
Doug Wellington Posted December 24, 2007 Report Posted December 24, 2007 I've gotten the preliminary info back on these power supplies, and I think it will probably be worth doing a bulk order. I am requesting more info about them - are they individually packaged or in bulk, what will the actual shipping cost be, etc. I'm also trying to get a sample from them to make sure it's what we need.More info when I have it.Happy holidays,Doughttp://www.analognotes.com Quote
Doug Wellington Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 OK, I'm still waiting for the final info, but I wanted to let you guys know that I have a sample on the way to make sure it's the one we need - I should have it next week. Looks like these things are going to be about $4 each plus whatever shipping will be...Doughttp://www.analognotes.com Quote
bugfight Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 ...Looks like these things are going to be about $4 each plus whatever shipping will be...coolness, i'll take 2 if it checks out... Quote
DavidBanner Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Put me down for 1 too please, if and when.... Quote
Wilba Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 Put me down for 1 too please, if and when....I don't think they'll work in the UK... aren't you guys on 240 volts? Quote
sineSurfer Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 I may be in for 2 but we still need the female DIN receptacle that seems to be available only in the c64s so I thought about replacing both male/female connectors with this:Binder 678 series DIN male plugBinder 687 series DIN female receptacle4 contacts are enough, right?Doug, would you organize a bulk buy for some of this connectors too?, or something less expensive if anyone finds some, this ones will cost about the same as the psu :( Quote
Wilba Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 I was selling the DIN sockets with the first batch of PCBs. I still have a few left. Quote
DavidBanner Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 good shout Wilba, for some reason I assumed the poster was Europe Based - doh! Quote
sineSurfer Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 I was selling the DIN sockets with the first batch of PCBs. I still have a few left.ok, that's another option ;D Quote
Doug Wellington Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 Alright, the other info I asked for has arrived. Are you sitting down? Shipping for 100 supplies is $320!That means each supply with cost $7.20 plus shipping. I think I can use Priority Mail, so that will be $8.95, and that will cover shipping for more than one supply.I've set up a wiki page for the bulk order. If you're interested in joining this group buy, go to:http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/dougwellington_bulk_ordersDoug(EDIT: clarifying the shipping cost.) Quote
Echopraxia Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 Hey Wilba. Should people that didn't get a MB 6582 pcb on the first run even look at this? I am just wondering if this will still be a needed part in addtion to smash's base board kit? Or is some kind of power supply going to be included in the kits already? Quote
seppoman Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 Should people that didn't get a MB 6582 pcb on the first run even need a soldering iron or will everything be soldered in already? ::)I'm starting to wonder if this parts kit plan is really good for the Midibox community as it gives some people the impression that there's no need to use their own brain or they'd need to decide anything on their own for building a 6582.S Quote
sineSurfer Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 Echopraxia: and how is this tied or related to the mb6582 only? ???, every midiBox sid needs psu, right? ;D Quote
Echopraxia Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 I think you are right seppo about making it too easy. But do you really want to blame someone for doing that? The only reason why I ask is because bulk orders come and go in a flash and I would like not to miss out if its not going to be included in the parts kit. I thought I was being pretty clear. Quote
Wilba Posted December 30, 2007 Report Posted December 30, 2007 Should people that didn't get a MB 6582 pcb on the first run even need a soldering iron or will everything be soldered in already? ::)I'm starting to wonder if this parts kit plan is really good for the Midibox community as it gives some people the impression that there's no need to use their own brain or they'd need to decide anything on their own for building a 6582.SI think it's just a matter of people not fully reading things carefully... it has been stated MANY TIMES that the MB-6582 parts kits that SmashTV is selling contains the parts that go on the base PCB, excluding SIDs.In a perfect world, I would not have designed a project for "mass-production" that required obsolete power supplies, hard to find PCB-mount 7-pin DIN sockets and PCB-mount DPDT rocker switches... using the C64 PSU was convenient for me, and that's all I cared about at the time of designing the original. It still is pretty convenient for most people who already have a working C64, or a PSU left over from salvaging SIDs, etc.If people still are stuck for a PSU, there are other options, there is space on the PCB for a 7805 so you can connect two external transformers (AC adapters) like a 9V AC and a 5V DC, and regulate the 5V inside the box... or alternately, a single big 9V AC and regulate the 5V from the 9V DC internally (only good for PSU Option A). Quote
Doug Wellington Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 OK, I have the sample power supply here in my hands! This particular version comes with four pins in the connector, including pin 5, but not pin 4, for 5V. Please refer to the C64 PSU Pinout Problem thread for more info on that:http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,9775.0.htmlThis supply is fairly heavy at 3.5 pounds, but I should be able to ship up to six of them in a USPS Flat Rate box for $8.95...If you're interested in joining this group buy, please add yourself to the list at:http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/dougwellington_bulk_ordersDoug Quote
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