Pyjaman

April 2, 2013

Hello, more on this topic :

first, last ng version in conjunction with the new beta version of mios studio seems to have corrected some issues I had:

my midibox is now able to handle conditional events (with exact same ngc file used without modifications).

Now:

here is the simple TEST.NGC file I was trying to get working (and which works now as it should):

RESET_HW

LCD "%C"

ENC n=1 sr=1 pins=0:1   type=detented2

EVENT_BUTTON  id=5  type=meta  meta=UpdateLcd  range=0:1  button_mode=Toggle  lcd_pos=1:1:1 label="Mode #%d"

EVENT_ENC id=1 if_equal=button:5:0 type=CC cc=16 lcd_pos=1:1:2 label="Enc %3d"

now, in order to make it my default config when powering my midibox, I type the folowing in the command line of mios studio:

load test

save default

then, when I power cycle my midibox, I get a "READY" message at power on (like if "factory default" DEFAULT.NGC was loaded again".

BUT: operating button #5 and encoder #1 make the unit working like it should in my TEST example.

here is then how my DEFAULT.NGC looks like :

# Reset to default
RESET_HW


# LCD message after load
LCD "%C@(1:1:1)READY."


# EVENTs
EVENT_BUTTON id=  5  type=Meta   meta=UpdateLcd  range=  0:1    offset=  0  ports=1000100000001000  button_mode=Toggle  lcd_pos=1:1:1  label="Mode #%d"
EVENT_ENC    id=  1  if_equal=BUTTON:5:0  type=CC     chn= 1 cc= 16   range=  0:127  offset=  0  ports=1000100000001000  lcd_pos=1:1:2  label="Enc %3d"


# SysEx variables
SYSEX_VAR dev=0 pat=0 bnk=0 ins=0 chn=0


# ENC hardware
ENC n=  1   sr= 1  pins=0:1   type=detented2


# DIN_MATRIX hardware
DIN_MATRIX n= 1   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 2   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 3   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 4   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 5   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 6   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 7   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0
DIN_MATRIX n= 8   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_din1= 0 sr_din2= 0


# DOUT_MATRIX hardware
DOUT_MATRIX n=1   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=2   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=3   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=4   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=5   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=6   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=7   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0
DOUT_MATRIX n=8   rows=8  inverted_sel=0  inverted_row=0  sr_dout_sel1= 0 sr_dout_sel2= 0  sr_dout_r1= 0 sr_dout_r2= 0  sr_dout_g1= 0 sr_dout_g2= 0  sr_dout_b1= 0 sr_dout_b2= 0


# LED_MATRIX_PATTERNs
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 0  pattern=1000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 1  pattern=1100000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 2  pattern=1100000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 3  pattern=1110000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 4  pattern=1110000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 5  pattern=1111000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 6  pattern=1111000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 7  pattern=1111100000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= M  pattern=1111110000010000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 8  pattern=1111111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos= 9  pattern=1111111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=10  pattern=1111111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=11  pattern=1111111110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=12  pattern=1111111110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=13  pattern=1111111111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=14  pattern=1111111111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=1  pos=15  pattern=1111111111100000

LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 0  pattern=1111110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 1  pattern=0111110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 2  pattern=0111110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 3  pattern=0011110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 4  pattern=0001110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 5  pattern=0001110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 6  pattern=0000110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 7  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= M  pattern=0000111000010000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 8  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos= 9  pattern=0000011000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=10  pattern=0000011000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=11  pattern=0000011100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=12  pattern=0000011110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=13  pattern=0000011110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=14  pattern=0000011111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=2  pos=15  pattern=0000011111100000

LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 0  pattern=1000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 1  pattern=0100000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 2  pattern=0100000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 3  pattern=0010000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 4  pattern=0010000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 5  pattern=0001000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 6  pattern=0000100000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 7  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= M  pattern=0000111000010000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 8  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos= 9  pattern=0000001000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=10  pattern=0000000100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=11  pattern=0000000100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=12  pattern=0000000010000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=13  pattern=0000000001000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=14  pattern=0000000001000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=3  pos=15  pattern=0000000000100000

LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 0  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 1  pattern=0000010000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 2  pattern=0000111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 3  pattern=0000111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 4  pattern=0000111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 5  pattern=0001111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 6  pattern=0001111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 7  pattern=0001111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= M  pattern=0011111110010000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 8  pattern=0011111110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos= 9  pattern=0011111110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=10  pattern=0011111110000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=11  pattern=0111111111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=12  pattern=0111111111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=13  pattern=0111111111000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=14  pattern=1111111111100000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n=4  pos=15  pattern=1111111111100000



# AIN hardware
AIN enable_mask=000000


# AINSER hardware
AINSER n=1   enabled=0  cs=0  num_pins=64  resolution=7bit
AINSER n=2   enabled=0  cs=1  num_pins=64  resolution=7bit


# KEYBOARD hardware
KEYBOARD n=1   rows=0  dout_sr1=0  dout_sr2=0  din_sr1=0  din_sr2=0  din_inverted=0  break_inverted=0  din_key_offset=32 \
               scan_velocity=1  scan_optimized=0  note_offset=36 \
               delay_fastest=5  delay_fastest_black_keys=0  delay_slowest=100
KEYBOARD n=2   rows=0  dout_sr1=0  dout_sr2=0  din_sr1=0  din_sr2=0  din_inverted=0  break_inverted=0  din_key_offset=32 \
               scan_velocity=1  scan_optimized=0  note_offset=36 \
               delay_fastest=5  delay_fastest_black_keys=0  delay_slowest=100


# MF hardware (has to be configured for Motormix protocol!)
MF n=1   enabled=0  midi_in_port=0x00  midi_out_port=0x00  chn=1  ts_first_button_id=0  config_port=0x00
MF n=2   enabled=0  midi_in_port=0x00  midi_out_port=0x00  chn=1  ts_first_button_id=0  config_port=0x00
MF n=3   enabled=0  midi_in_port=0x00  midi_out_port=0x00  chn=1  ts_first_button_id=0  config_port=0x00
MF n=4   enabled=0  midi_in_port=0x00  midi_out_port=0x00  chn=1  ts_first_button_id=0  config_port=0x00


# AOUT hardware
AOUT  type=none  cs=0  num_channels=8


# ROUTER definitions (Note: chn=0 disables, chn=17 selects all channels)
ROUTER n= 1   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 2   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 3   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 4   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 5   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 6   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 7   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 8   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n= 9   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=10   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=11   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=12   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=13   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=14   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=15   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17
ROUTER n=16   src_port=USB1  src_chn= 0   dst_port=OUT1  dst_chn=17


# Ethernet Setup
ETH dhcp=1  local_ip=192.168.1.180  netmask=255.255.255.0  gateway=192.168.1.1


# OSC Configuration
OSC n=1  remote_ip=192.168.1.101  remote_port=8001  local_port=8000  transfer_mode=MIDI
OSC n=2  remote_ip=192.168.1.101  remote_port=8001  local_port=8000  transfer_mode=MIDI
OSC n=3  remote_ip=192.168.1.101  remote_port=8001  local_port=8000  transfer_mode=MIDI
OSC n=4  remote_ip=192.168.1.101  remote_port=8001  local_port=8000  transfer_mode=MIDI


# Misc. Configuration
DebounceCtr 20
GlobalChannel 0
AllNotesOffChannel 0
ConvertNoteOffToOn0 1

It seems that the events and hardware definitions of my TEST config have been "merged" into the initial default.ngc . Isn't the new ngc file supposed to replace

the former one when I save it under "default" name ? Am I missing something ?

anyway, this is now way more manageable, and VERY BIG THANKS to you, TK, for such a powerful and inspiring tool ! I have to think to "buy TK a beer" or several...

Laurent.

March 17, 2013

Just for more infos, on my side about this issue : on my first laptop (Dell D630, WinXP 32 SP2) I basically have the problems described by Duggle .

-Barely no way to load any "big" NGC file in the file broser like default.ngc (the file opens in the editor once over 20 times) loading stays stuck at 98-99%. With a powered hub, it gets even worst, as it barely loads 6/7% of any file before it says "no response from mios32 core during reading operation".

-when testing config files (copy/paste of the "getting started" examples from user manual) nothing involving banks works properly : bank is allways 0 in the debug window when pushing the bank select buttons.

-The weirdest, With simple example files like "hello.ngc" : let's say I've got two files "hello1.ngc" and "hello2.ngc" with two different text strings just to differenciate them. I can manage to do :

load hello1

save hello2

and it works as it should. but after that, sometimes, when loading "hello2.ngc" in the editor, I get the surprise that the content of default.ngc has overwritten the original content of the file ! I've checked many times: it's not a mistake on my side...

load hello2

save default

doesn't work. It says that default.ngc is saved but when loading it, it simply loads the original default file.

after that, sometimes, when loading "hello2.ngc" in the editor, I get the surprise that the content of default.ngc has overwritten the original content of the file ! I've checked many times: it's not a mistake on my side...

More revelant (maybe) : I just changed the "READY" message at startup in the default.ngc for "HELLO", just for testing purpose. So, when power cycling the NG, it says "HELLO", and not "READY". now, imagine me doing the dance of the victory on my couch, because it works ! So, lets go back to the "rotate me!" experiment on the getting started page, click, click, in my hello.ngc config, no problems. So, encoders are basically working, now let's load the default.ngc file again... Wich says "READY" instead of "HELLO"!!!!!!! from what I understand, the NG just acted as if there wasn't any default file on the SDcard and recreated one new, erasing the previous one with "HELLO" as starting message.

By the way, on my other laptop, (an almost dead Dell D620, with no cpu cooling, very slow, that barely works 15 minutes before it freezes completly, with WinXP 32 SP1) I don't have any of those issues, file editing, bank creation, loading, saving, everything, so far, from what I can check in less than 15 minutes, works flawlessly... too bad it olny last so little time on a laptop with yoghurt and chocolate all over the screen and keyboard, so many missing keys, and a not working trackpad and buttons : My only midibox compatible computer is my 2 years old daughter's toy . Damn...

Laurent.

August 29, 2012

Hi, a little hotness is normal depending on how much power they have to dissipate. You might want to heatsink your regulators to correct this. refer to chips datasheet for it. Just remember you'll need an insulator for your lm317 because back of the chip is V out.

Laurent.

May 1, 2012

Hi TK
I checked my Fader and printed out the Data-sheet from Alps and found out that it is Linear. I measured it to go sure and measured at halfway 5k so it has to be fine...
Then i checked on the input voltage. It is 11.74V by running NG module.
Then i thought about your advice to not use cheap MIDI - USB Interfaces and that i installed the App before knowing that. So i installed the App again and now its gone! it works really smoot on fading.

Then i recognised that touching the housing of the alps fader makes the module send midi. I see the LED on my Fireface blinking by touching the housing but not by touching the faderneck (metal T-peace). In fact it makes the virtual fader of my program jump between +/-0.25 and +/-0.75 dB. I figured out that it is possible to interrupt those jumps by grounding the housing of the Fader. But thats not so simple because there is no soldering point or so on the housing it self.

Is there a way to flatten that trembling in the software?

Hi, I guess you will mount your fader in a box at the end. with a grounded metal top panel, you will ground you fader's body by simple contact with it or with the help of the mounting screw. If you don't have a metal top panel, just pinch a piece of wire or a small ground lug between the panel and the fader at one of the mounting end.

Regards,

Laurent.

April 15, 2012

Hi, I'm a total newby here as well. But as I'm also interested about how the MBLC works, I will try to help here from what I understood: The DAW sends feedback to the mblc when either rec/play/... are engaged, in the form of a status led witch is wired as shown here:

link

You could then wire a relay instead of the wanted led as shown here :

link

There might be other simpler(?) ways to do that but that one should work for someone with no programing skills (like me) and very limited knowlegdge about midi implementation and protocole.

Laurent.

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