Sasha

Did anybody tried optical faders from Infinium. They are comming with 45, 60 and 100 mm travel. Somwhere I noticed they are starting from around 7$ which is really cheep. What makes them really kool is posibility to adjust its tension! :) Check out their page: http://www.infiniumtechnologies.com/categories/products What worries me is that they give 0-3V analog output which is not enough to drive multiplexers. I guess some simple amp would do the job. What do you suggest. I see Mackie d2 are using Infinium faders

I took out line 129, reasembled syx, and upload it to the core with bankstick attached . Everything was the same. Hardware I use for testing is usual hardvare. 1x core configured fot LTC 1xLTC (working OK with MB64) 1xAIN with only one mux IC (othersare are terminated) 2xDIN (last SR#8 with connected one encoder, I want to use only 2 encoders,) If this configuration work out I can than try to convert my MB64 http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7008.0 to MB64E adding twe weels for jog function. I don`t know... maybe I should back to old configuration without LTC. This sh## gives me headacke...

I have one bankstick which I dont need since this is dedicated controler so I dont need different setups. If I connect it I coult than avoid speed problem First when I read MIOS Studio on the menu I couldn`t wait to download it and see it. Acording to name "Studio" I was expecting all-in-one support for MIOS aplications and main functions wich a lot of us needs very much. It is good and usefull aplication but I was missing some more things. It would be great to see some MIDIBox Studio. :P It could probably save posts like this one and maybe Testing/Troubleshooting category would be unnecessery. It surely takes much time, but maybe somebody could improve existing Serges editors. I would like to do such thing, but dont know a sh## about programming. :-[

Thorsten, I sent you last ini and syx. Before that I changed and reasembled it so meny times... Entry 129... was mistake. I`m not sure now is syx file comes from the ini I sent you, becouse I didnt get the error last time. But It was too late at night so errors are posible. First syx configuration also didn`t work properly for me. I get an error once or twice but I fixed it and after it converting to syx was OK. I`ll try everything more... Everything worked? pots, buttons, encoders? It would be helpfull to know my main.asm. I think I didnt disabled special function buttons properly. Here is how it looks like. Do I have to do something else? #else #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_EXEC 0 ; menu exec button assigned to DIN pin #7 #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_SNAPSHOT 0 ; menu snapshot button assigned to DIN pin #4 #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_RIGHT 0 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_LEFT 0 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel #endif

I am using LTC on a same test setup configured for LTC and just switching the aplication from MB64 to MB64E. - MBox 64 with doesn`t jitters - MBox 64E with disebled AIN doesn`t jitters. - MBox 64E with enabled AIN jitters I see where could be one of the problems but not sure how to fix it. I Update all slots with some value so there is no empty analog slots with my syx after MB64E aplication but same... Yes. On the LCD I can see Pitch Band and A. Tch. with different values When I disconnect AIN module LTC MIDI out LED flicker very fast but seams reacting on the touching. Before that jitter was only on the LCD. No, they are showing Pitch Band and A. Tch. with few more different values. All unused pins in mios_tables are terminated with "MT_EOT". Analog inputs I defined in "ini" but it dont work properly when I uploade reasembled "syx" I want to use only two encoders on SR8 so I configured it like this" MIOS_ENC_PIN_TABLE ;; encoders 1-16 ;; SR Pin Mode ENC_ENTRY 8, 0, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 1 ENC_ENTRY 8, 2, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 2 ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT ENC_EOT My PSU is old one i am using it for a long time. ------------------------------------------------------ I really dont know proper way of using my MB64 configuration on new MB64E based box. I just want to add 2 encoders, and use all DIN inputs for buttons as it was on my MB64 box. I Tried to disabled special buttons in the main.asm But after reasembling seams are still functionall. So is it LTC sabotageing or my PC or my configuration - probably. I`m not sure.

Correction. There are both linear and logarithmic versions of that ALPS fader. Check at conrad Artikel-Nr.: 442844 - 62

Thanks Sinnsyk, but 100 mm travel faders are not sutible for X-faders. I have few studio faders which I am going to use for pitch only. Even as a chanel faders they are too long.

I will answer all when I test everything again acording to your questions.

No Thorsten. I didnt solved my problem. I was comming regulary to see if there are some ansvers but as everybody ignored me I just stoped comming to this post and continued to troubleshhoting by myself. I moved a little bit from dead end but I am still stucked in the same problem. As I dont have Internet at home I cant respond instantly after reading post since I dont have my box with me at work, so everything is delayed at least one day. Thank you for your offer to help me directly. I will send you my ini and syx files.

No I am not! What is normal fader? I guess you mean linear. Evry linear pot vorks fine in evry application. If has diferent slope that means it is NOT linear. I asked which of replacible DJ mixer Xfader is 10K linear. I am sure my question was at right place. I saw some quarantie several hundreds fo thousands of operations!!! It must mean something! Again, question is which one is 10K or so but LINEAR

Ableton Live or any other software have nothing to do with pot value. "?" Moving the fader controller is sending same MIDI msg. no metter which softver you are using. I wanted to use mixer crossfader because of the nice smooth movement feeling and their durability. Isnt that enough reason to use them? They are made much better than regular sliders as far as I know. Look at those scratch xfaders. You done so meny movements in a hour of practising that regular DJ done in a year. I dont planing to use it for "cutting" but doesn`t metter. There is big difference betveen faders and mixer xfader. PS. I am pretty short on cash but same time I am willing to spend more for make good quality machine even I finish it in a year. All potentiometers I can find in my country are plastic Radiohm. Quality ones are DJ mixer replacements. I hope you understand now.

As I remember I tried it. Dont remember was something different about it. ?

It must be reason why 10K. How big is the tollerance 10K-???

It doesn`t matter. I would like to make dedicated controllers for both apps.

I spend meny days troubleshooting MB64E for alalog usage and here is the results (question) I made LTC module and instllaled Roland drivers sucsessfully changed ID with change ID application uploaded reasambled MB64E aplication with enabled analog input and multiplexer Problem is... when I am using LTC vith MB64 everything works OK When I am using it with MB64E it is jittering. I clamp all inputs to mass... still jittering ??? I switch to the MB64 again without touching enything... works fine!? I tried it also with Yamaha drivers - same result What is very strange is that jittering could be seen on the LCD but not all jitters activateing LTC MIDI out LED and also not apearing on the MIDI Ox MIDI input monitor screen. When I disconect LTC from PC, pots and encoder movement are looking OK on the LCD shoving proper parameter value. This seams wery strange to me. What else should I check?

Yeah they are designd for audio, but one said thay are not directly feeded with the signal reather driving the circuit controling the valume, so they still could be linear. It make sense, cose i saw circuit somewhere using that kind of "cracking avoidence" I could call them but colls would cost me more than if I buy crossfaders and read the markings from it. :) I`ll try to mail tham.

David, you completly missed my point. I already said that about 10k fader... Let me try again... Which Brands (model) of DJ mixers have replacible crossfaders valued 10K linear? Non of the crossfaders have that kind of details since mixer owner dont need it. You are buying crossfader acording to model you have. And all crossfaders I saw comes with included knobs and some with included montage polate so I dont need to worry about it. I am interested just which one is 10k lin.

Can somebody confirm there is DJ mixer crossfader sutible for mbox - 10K linear. I would pay more for quality crossfader.

I am pushing my girlfriend to start making the midibox with words... you know, electronic is like puzzle... you don`t have to understand everithing, just follow instructions :) Maybe we will see her and other girlie boxes here someday. ;) Hope so.

OK. Thanks anyway. I`ll try some more, but I doubt I can do something with it.

I am little shocked and disapointed. :( Did I asked stupidest question ever??? I searched this forum and documents but nothings seams helped me solve the problem. I have copied pot onfiguration from my MB64.ini to MB64E but pots are sending the same CC#91 msg. after uploading the compiled sysx. I tried to configure mios tables and recompile hex... nothing. I kindly ask somebody to waste minute of your time to direct me or show me where I go wrong. Thanks in advance.

Nobody ansveres yet? ??? I am searching forum and site to help me do it without success. I tried to configure "midibox64e.ini" file from mk_syx but this wont help me keep the originall MB64 seting. This is how I think code of MB64E have to look like if i want to use encoders and pots. Correct? [ENCS] 1 = B0 00 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 0" DEC| 2 = B0 01 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 1" DEC| 3 = B0 02 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 2" DEC| 4 = B0 03 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 3" DEC| 5 = B0 04 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 4" DEC| 6 = B0 05 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 5" DEC| 7 = B0 06 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 6" DEC| 8 = B0 07 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 7" DEC| 9 = B0 08 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 8" DEC| 10 = B0 09 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 9" DEC| 11 = B0 0A [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 10" DEC| 12 = B0 0B [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 11" DEC| 13 = B0 0C [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 12" DEC| 14 = B0 0D [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 13" DEC| 15 = B0 0E [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 14" DEC| 16 = B0 0F [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 15" DEC| 17 = B0 10 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 16" DEC| 18 = B0 11 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 17" DEC| 19 = B0 12 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 18" DEC| 20 = B0 13 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 19" DEC| 21 = B0 14 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 20" DEC| 22 = B0 15 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 21" DEC| 23 = B0 16 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 22" DEC| 24 = B0 17 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 23" DEC| 25 = B0 18 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 24" DEC| 26 = B0 19 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 25" DEC| 27 = B0 1A [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 26" DEC| 28 = B0 1B [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 27" DEC| 29 = B0 1C [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 28" DEC| 30 = B0 1D [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 29" DEC| 31 = B0 1E [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 30" DEC| 32 = B0 1F [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 31" DEC| 33 = B0 20 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 32" DEC| 34 = B0 21 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 33" DEC| 35 = B0 22 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 34" DEC| 36 = B0 23 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 35" DEC| 37 = B0 24 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 36" DEC| 38 = B0 25 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 37" DEC| 39 = B0 26 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 38" DEC| 40 = B0 27 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 39" DEC| 41 = B0 28 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 40" DEC| 42 = B0 29 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 41" DEC| 43 = B0 2A [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 42" DEC| 44 = B0 2B [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 43" DEC| 45 = B0 2C [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 44" DEC| 46 = B0 2D [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 45" DEC| 47 = B0 2E [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 46" DEC| 48 = B0 2F [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 47" DEC| 49 = B0 30 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 48" DEC| 50 = B0 31 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 49" DEC| 51 = B0 32 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 50" DEC| 52 = B0 33 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 51" DEC| 53 = B0 34 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 52" DEC| 54 = B0 35 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 53" DEC| 55 = B0 36 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 54" DEC| 56 = B0 37 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 55" DEC| 57 = B0 38 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 56" DEC| 58 = B0 39 [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 57" DEC| 59 = B0 3A [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 58" DEC| 60 = B0 3B [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 59" DEC| 61 = B0 3C [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 60" DEC| 62 = B0 3D [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 61" DEC| 63 = B0 3E [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 62" DEC| 64 = B0 3F [00-7F:00] ENC_MODE_ABSOLUTE&NORMAL LED_PATTERN_0 "CC # 63" DEC| [POTS] 65 = B0 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 1" DEC| 66 = B1 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 2" DEC| 67 = B2 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 3" DEC| 68 = B3 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 4" DEC| 69 = B4 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 5" DEC| 70 = B5 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 6" DEC| 71 = B6 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 7" DEC| 72 = B7 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 8" DEC| 73 = B8 5B [00-7F] "Reverb # 9" DEC| 74 = B9 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #10" DEC| 75 = BA 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #11" DEC| 76 = BB 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #12" DEC| 77 = BC 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #13" DEC| 78 = BD 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #14" DEC| 79 = BE 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #15" DEC| 80 = BF 5B [00-7F] "Reverb #16" DEC| 81 = B0 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 1" DEC| 82 = B1 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 2" DEC| 83 = B2 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 3" DEC| 84 = B3 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 4" DEC| 85 = B4 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 5" DEC| 86 = B5 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 6" DEC| 87 = B6 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 7" DEC| 88 = B7 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 8" DEC| 89 = B8 5D [00-7F] "Chorus # 9" DEC| 90 = B9 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #10" DEC| 91 = BA 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #11" DEC| 92 = BB 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #12" DEC| 93 = BC 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #13" DEC| 94 = BD 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #14" DEC| 95 = BE 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #15" DEC| 96 = BF 5D [00-7F] "Chorus #16" DEC| 97 = B0 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 1" DEC| 98 = B1 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 2" DEC| 99 = B2 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 3" DEC| 100 = B3 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 4" DEC| 101 = B4 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 5" DEC| 102 = B5 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 6" DEC| 103 = B6 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 7" DEC| 104 = B7 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 8" DEC| 105 = B8 4A [00-7F] "CutOff # 9" DEC| 106 = B9 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #10" DEC| 107 = BA 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #11" DEC| 108 = BB 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #12" DEC| 109 = BC 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #13" DEC| 110 = BD 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #14" DEC| 111 = BE 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #15" DEC| 112 = BF 4A [00-7F] "CutOff #16" DEC| 113 = B0 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 1" DEC| 114 = B1 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 2" DEC| 115 = B2 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 3" DEC| 116 = B3 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 4" DEC| 117 = B4 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 5" DEC| 118 = B5 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 6" DEC| 119 = B6 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 7" DEC| 120 = B7 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 8" DEC| 121 = B8 07 [00-7F] "Volume # 9" DEC| 122 = B9 07 [00-7F] "Volume #10" DEC| 123 = BA 07 [00-7F] "Volume #11" DEC| 124 = BB 07 [00-7F] "Volume #12" DEC| 125 = BC 07 [00-7F] "Volume #13" DEC| 126 = BD 07 [00-7F] "Volume #14" DEC| 127 = BE 07 [00-7F] "Volume #15" DEC| 128 = BF 07 [00-7F] "Volume #16" DEC|

I finished my Traktor controller based on MB64 but now I decided to add few adittionall encoders. I enabled AIN and MUX in main.asm. I know that pots are using entry 64-70. Result is all pots sends same messages because there are not configured. I have always used sysx editor for that function, but since for MB64E there is no pots configuration integrated i don`t know how to do it manualy. Is there a way to copy/paste AIN configuration from my current MB64 setup to proper location of new MB64E?

That controller looks fabulous. I never tought it is not some industrial built machine. Really original look. Evry part of it is perfectly pick, knobs, switches... great. And where did you get those leavers at the bottom from??? To me it looks like it`s original Hammond leavers.

It is local engraving service, one of the tens existing in Belgrade. Evry express stamp service use that kind of laser cutter/engraver. Check any of these in your city.