Lide

thanks for checking this, sounduke, though it is bad news as i really liked to have a MB64. i think i´ll go with one MB64E because i think with the encoders i don´t miss the snap/relative/parallax-thing. i would replace faders with encoders and that maybe leads to a more compact design ;) . i think working without any faders will satisfy my needs. or is it possible to use a fader with the MB64E (using MIOS?)? though one fader for x-fading A-B in live would be nice! greetz, lide

Hi! Thanks for all replies. I need to be sure if this works, before i decide to build MB64. The endless knob is a essential tool for working with live, so i would like to know if anybody could try this? Greetz, Lide

:D :D :D ;D yes indeed. this seems to be my midibox-configuration (if the endless knob thing would work!) thank you very much. btw - anyone who could try an encoder on a din of the buttons???

i want the costs to be as low as possible i´m breaking it down to the core: i want a midibox to control ableton live on stage when i perform a gig. and my minimum requirements therefore are: - compact design (should i use faders at all? - think i could even get along with one crossfader and replace the track faders with encoders/pots) - 11 tracks with minimum 2 rotary encoders/pots AND minimum 3 buttons (+LEDs) per track - 1 fader for x-fade (do i need a motorfader for that? i think not) - 8 more Buttons (+LEDs) for free programmable function - at least 1 endless knob to skip through scenes i want to be sure to get these with my midibox, but also take the maximum i can get at this point it means to take MB64E, right? with encoders i don´t have that skip/relative-problem, right? but the crossfader ... ??? ... if i need a mixing-controller at any time, probably i would go with a second box, making MBLC... i´m little confused as you see ???

... good morning! so if i decide to build up a MBLC: - can i use more than 8 faders? i guess i only can use 8 motorfaders, but add more faders without motors. so faders and encoders are the equivalent? - can i use more than 9 encoders? there are only 9 on the design-picture at ucapps. my plan now is to use the MBLC, add three full tracks (2 sub and 1 master) and one crossfader (normal fader with horizontal position!). therefore i have to replace some of the buttons (as schown on the right side of the LC-design-picture) with encoders/faders an change some code. does this work? thank you for your patience  :-\

aaaaahhhhh! there´s light at the end of the tunnel! :) ok. and encoders always are "in position" of the virtual pots i think, right? if so i can see at least one BIG pro of MBLC. good night.

Hi Sounduke, i don´t get the point of the pot modes. Maybe i got to search more.... Is it for that: When changing the assignment of a pot and it differs from the position of the "virtual pot" in the sequencer then there are no jumps and the controller-signal only leads to a value-change if the position of the "virtual pot"-position is crossed? (Not easy to explain my thoughts right now...) the reason why i prefer the mb64e is, that i think the pots give me better feeling when i perform a live session. And i build it for that purpose. Also i could not see the pros of a MBLC. greetz, lide

Nice Resonse! Does that mean i could at least have ONE encoder on the MB64? I need min. one endless controller to skip through my scenes (if you are familiar with live, you know what i mean :)) And what does mean snap/relative/parallax? Yes, i got the v5 of Live. Very cool prog. 8) So lets sum this and see if i understand: on MB64E i can use (See Model2): 22 Analog Pots 2 Encoders without LED-Rings 12 Faders (only without motor?, that would be ok) 44 Buttons with LEDs right? And the Firmware v2.1 of MB64E would fit without coding? I´m not that familiar with programming... Greetz, Lide

Hi! I´m new to this but I really think this is a great platform. I´m planning to build a midibox for controlling mostly ableton live, maybe sometimes logic too. I already read some topics concerning this but didn´t find the info i need. So i hope some of you guys can help me. I´d like to have the following controllers: Model 1: 22 Encoders with LED-Rings (maybe 15 LEDs per ring) + 2 Encoders without LED-Rings 12 Faders (maybe 8 of ‘em motorfaders, just have to check the prices) 44 Buttons with LEDs maybe a Display Model 2: 22 Pots at least 2 Encoders without LED-Rings 12 Faders (maybe 8 of ‘em motorfaders, just have to check the prices) 44 Buttons with LEDs maybe a Display I would prefer Model 2, but if this is not possible, then I can do Model 1. Is this possible? And which MB-Project/Template would fit for this (probably MB64E?)? What hardware do I need? Hope this isn´t too “newbieish†for you. Greetz, Lide