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.dxf is an AutoCad file.
I'm not familiar with inkscape, but I think you can get the "educational" version of AutoCad for free, or very cheap, or not quite so expensive as the full version.
You wouldn't have a link to this free version of autocad would you? I wouldn't mind taking a look at the Tascam autocad files to see if they're to scale or not.
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app= inkscape
material = mylar
you could also print on any translucent paper sheet and then glue it to some kind of plastic
cheers
simone
thx simone. I noticed that the Tascam site has dxf files of the 2400. Could these be imported into inkscape so I don't have to map out the panel myself?
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With the help of the guys at the Tascam Forum I now have total control over any parameter I would like with my US-2400. With so many parameters to remember, I decided to use a label maker to map out what each encoder controls...but it ended up looking really sloppy and unprofessional. I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but how are you guys making those awesome front panels for your LC's? What programs are you using for the design and what materials would you recommend I make the template out of so it could lay over top my 2400.
Any help would be much appreciated. :)
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... it's my current and never ending project. I hope DAW Host programs still support the MIDI language when it's finished ;D :P
Greets, Roger
I've got a couple projects like that on the go right now. Do think you could send me a link to the 10" PC screen you've mentioned?
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... that does not mean, that a MBHP-Controller is the right solution ;)
I'm also combining MBHP-Controllers with screens of a MiniATX-board. The Controllers are used for the rotaties and the 10" PC screens for graphics/displays (and the screens/PC get the display information over a Midi-Through... so in this case the screens have to do something with Midi ;)).
Everybody in this forum (also Playbo$$) just wants to help you and give you ideas.
Greets, Roger
Roger, is your MBHP controller wit 10" PC screens document somewhere on the site or is this a current project?
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what you mean 500 series? API? with 2520 discrete opamp and slew rate? Perhaps you were mixing in the box back then too, and cannot distinguish properly because the Motu24 io was a limiting factor ( = 0.2 usd el cheapo opamps).
To be on topic, I would do this with 19" screen and touchboard. You cant buy this many ledrings... Even if it would be standard Led bar's you should sell half of your gear lol, not to mention front panel .
Thx for finally getting on topic. This channel strip thing is just an idea I had (notice I posted it in the design concept forum). Rather than dropping $80K on a Euphonix controller, I thought it might be possible to build one myself. Most here think it's possible...but impractical. I'll take their word for it. Btw, what does a 19" screen and touchboard have to do with Midi anyways? This forum is called Midbox.org isn't it?
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Yes. you can. But it seems a little excessive. In nuendo you can set up banks for a control surface, so theres no need for so many encoders. Remember you've only got 2 hands ;D. And it seems silly to me to add it to the top of the tascam if it's not really going to be a channel strip
The displays on each encoder would be very difficult. Nuendo would not be able to send the name information to the 64e (only mackie control does this).
Maybe... you could store the name of each CC/channel in the 64e, and use it for the display. But this would be a massive programming task, not to mention very difficult. You'd be better off writting a custom application.
(64e can already display names on the main LCD if you use banksticks).
Even if you did that, you'd need to devise a way to connect so many displays. Perhaps a led matrix?? This will also need a complex custom driver.
An alternate thought.... For the big real desk feel
Perhaps you could break a 64e into sections.
eg. 12 encoders + 12 buttons for eq.
4 encoders + 2 buttons for compression.
# encoders + # buttons for your favourate reverb.
etc....
With 3 x 64e's you should be able to cover a large chunk of your favourate plug-ins
thx Durisian...I appreciate your help. Will definitely take your advice into consideration.
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Basically this is possible. It depends, what/how Nuendo can control.
Having so many displays for every parameter (like shown in your pic of the Euphonix System5), will propably be the biggest challenge (economical wise ;))
Greets, Roger
A while back I tried out a Behinger BCR 2000 with my 2400 (in MC) and was able to program almost any parameter I wanted to each encoder of the 2000. I'm wondering if I could do the same with these channel strips.
So economically, the small displays are going to be the most expensive...but what about all the encoders? And will this be possible with three Midibox 64E modules?
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You're optimistic buddy ;D
Yeh It is possible, but impractical to the max!
No hijacking / flaming please playbo$$. I have a rule - if I need to edit a post that many times I haven't thought it through enough :)
Can you explain further why this is impractical to the max? I understand that I'm using a lot of encoders, but that's what will give it that real mixing board feel.
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You could. But you'll be pretty much restricting yourself to 24 static channels.
There's no way you could make the 64e follow the tascam in mackie control mode...
Having said that, your channel strips would be useless for plugin control compared to what the tascam can already do.
You really need to emulate the mackie control c4 to be worth your time IMO. Good luck getting the protocol spec out of Mackie!
Oh yeah, Nueno doesn't even support C4....
If it's a bigger channel strip your after. You could just build 1 big channel strip, with 1 64e.
In nuendo, your tascam can run in mackie control mode.
The 64e could be setup as 'generic remote', it's functions set to 'selected'.
As you select a channel on the tascam, your 64e should follow that selected track. Giving you your channel strip.
I wasn't planning on having the channel strips follow the tascam in mackie control mode. I was planning on using the channel strips more like a BCR 2000, where in Nuendo you can program individual parameters to each encoder. Would that be possible?
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I knew it , knew this is euphonix shit, i was scratchin my head too . whipity whip , give me a 70's lunchbox over this bollocks any day of the year :P
Ya, I just used the Euphonix channel strips to quickly show what it is that I'd like to make. I think they've got it laid out pretty nice and have put some thought into it...so why not try to model mine after that. As for using a 500 series lunchbox for eqing and dynamics...I had one with 4 550As, 2 550Bs, and 2 560B's and sold it since I can get nearly the same results with some of my eq plugins.
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A while back I was considering making my own Midi Box LC...but I got really lucky and found a used Tascam 2400 for less than what a midi box lc would cost me to build. The 2400 could be a really awesome controller, but it's missing some key components. I noticed that someone here built their own meterbridge not too long ago, so I imagine other modifications are possible.
My idea is to add 24 channel strips above the 24 faders, with each channel having 8 encoders and the ability to control vst plugin parameters in Nuendo. I'm guessing that this could be done with three Midibox 64E modules? Hopefully with a little help from you pros, I can make this happen.
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Mind sharing the name of the supplier anyway, just to get it out there?
-Steve
Here's a link
I phoned the Toronto office in Canada for a quote.
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Hi Jason,
What kind of time frame are you looking for placing your order?
I am interested in 25 as well, but will have to be in a month or two, once I've brought that panel for my MB i'm doing at the moment.
Rowan
Hi Rowan
I just found out the other day that Tascam is making a new version of the 2400 with LCD's in the fall. If the price isn't too high I just might buy one and focus on building a midi controlled analog volume box that will work with the controller. So I think I might wait until then before I commit to buying a large quantity of Alps faders. If anyone needs cheap Alps faders soon though and would like to organize a group buy, I'd be happy to give the name and number of the company I spoke with.
Jason
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Hey Pilo...good to hear from ya. This chip sounds very promising especially to people like myself who are using outboard gear and summing audio out of the box (mixerless). My idea is to buy a Tascam 2400 controller (because the price is unbeatable for 25 channels) and use it to automate volume on ghost tracks in Sonar (Cakewalk). The ghost track volume level info will be sent to the Core Module + PGA 4311 via Midi and used to control the balanced +4 signal lines after my outboard comps and eqs and before entering my summing box (Folcrom). So this will give me a hybrid setup, where I can have control over both analog and digital levels with automation and totall recall.
Because I'm a totally noob, this is definitely easier for me to say then actually do. So if you or any other experienced folks on the site could continue to share your results regarding this chip and intergration with the core, I'd appreciate it very much.
Jason
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They're with the touch sensing.
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Can't wait to hear about the results using the PGA2311. Being able to control audio volumes with MIDI would solve so many mixing problems for me.
A total noob question for those experimenting with the chip...what MB modules and MIOS drivers are needed to make this chip work? For some reason I have it in my head that only the core module is needed.
Jason
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I saw that post... That's a pretty nice price. I bet if you offer to ship them to the US (explicitly) you'll find some buyers.
I'd buy some, but I don't think I'll have a use for them.
-Steve
That's probably the only way it could be done....but I'd have to see more interest before committing.
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The Canadian distributor got back to me with a quote of $11.20CDN per Alps RSAON11M9 fader. I can only buy them in quantities of 100 though.
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Here's a link to the pdf for the fader.
http://www.alpsusa.com/appliance/digitalMixer/Pdf%20files/mortor.pdf
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I just got a quote from an Alps Distributor in Canada for part #RSA0N11M907. The price is $11.72CDN per fader. The catch is that the min. order is 100 but I only need 25. Any takers on the remaining 75?
Jason
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Ah, thanks. Yeah, not sure where to find that one either...
-Steve
I remember reading a thread here about the Panasonic Rep. saying that that particular fader was no longer in production. My hope is to find a distributor that still has some in stock here in Canada.
Jason
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Wow, what model are those Panasonics? That sounds cheaper than any other slide pot I've seen.
Here's a link to the fader.
http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_mf.html
It's the Panasonic EVANMKP08B14, just underneath the Alps.
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What sort of price are you looking for?
If that's what the Alps fader is going for I guess I'm looking for the $7 Panasonics. I just hope a Canadian distributor has some left in stock since Panasonic no longer makes that model.
And have you heard of less?No...I didn't even know where to find them until you gave me the link. I've contacted a Canadian distributor for Alps but I'm still waiting for them to get back to me with a price and the min. quantity that I can order. Their sales rep seems to think that I'll have to buy a 1000.
That sounds fairly reasonable to me, considering what would be involved in one...So does the Mackie Control for $1000 when comparing it to the $400US for 8 Alps Faders.
How to make a template for my US-2400?
in MIDIbox HUIs
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Of course I did a search before asking...it's just that there were a few to choose from and I wanted to download the right one. :)