Good advice, Thank you. You are right when you say that all the info is overwhelming, ive been dropping in on the site for a while now and trying to absorb bits here and there, but over the last month or so have had the itch to start building, its just a case of knowing where to start and sometimes i need pointing in the right direction. I have a basic knowledge of electronics because it was part of my national diploma in music tech, We built things like amps, stomp boxes, noise gates etc, but the closest we got to midi was learning how to wire a 5 pin plug, we never actually got to find out whats inside a synth or interface... which is strange because a good portion of that course was spent using midi. So i wasnt actually sure what the controllers did but roger has made things alot clearer, thanx. At times the brain does feel like exploding as its all ive been doing lately is purchasing books and refreshing my brain on things i had forgoten, like ohms law, paralel and series resistors etc. But like you said, at the end its like getting a hotrod, and that idea appeals to me very much, that and im getting sick of using the mouse to tweak things... i prefer more hands on, and its another piece of gear for my studio And i know by hollands finest we aint talking cloggs haha.