charlie_says

Also, I second m00dawg's line about the min control surface, which is what I have, not exporting the knob changes (if I had the full surface this probably wouldn't be an issue). If TK could confirm whether it's possible to get those knob changes sending out thru MIDI this could provide me with the shortest solution.

re the VSTi - this would be fantastic... but I don't think it's happening any more. The guy who was developing it just seems to have stopped. It's a pity as it looked great... You can have a look at www.saschazone.de for more info.

Yes, that does help. Basically, it means sticking with a method that's a bit limited, but easy to control. I'm hoping that I can do without buying a new piece of kit for it, because, as far as I can tell once I've set up the tracks, I should be able to edit them by hand... Won't be able to get on to it for the next couple of weeks unfortunately, but will drop a line back when I've tried again... Charlie

Ok -- further results or lack of... It may be my version of cubase is too old, as it seems screen shots of automation layers can the CC specified, but I've still not had much success at controlling that precisely or setting it up. What I also tried was using my microkorg to play out thru the MBSid. This had some results - some of the knobs definitely altered the sounds although I couldn't work out exactly what was being altered. Cubase could also definitely record this tweaking, and could play it back out to the MBSid, but I couldn't edit it, and I wasn't able to ascertain which CC was being changed. So, all in all, not so good. I think that really I'd just want control over what the expanded control surface has: filter cutoff & res osc controls env controls So looking a bit further into it, do I have to set this up in the CFG option? If so, do I have to set it up for each patch?

Thanks very much for both your input. M00dawg - I have had some success at recording cc events as you describe (altho not for the MBSid) so I can see that as a practical way forward. But... I also am pretty sure I remember finding options to create your own, or edit (in which case I can use the list it control the items I want.) I'm out all day today, but will give this a go tomorrow and let you know.

Thanks for the reply! Ok well the good news is, My MidiBoxSid is pretty old, actually version 1.73 And, I had a quick look at cubase, adding the automation track would seem to be the solution, although (obviously the generic options there aren't the things I want to automate) but I guess if I import or create the correct items for automation then I'll get to be able to use them. If you could upload the image tho, that would be very, very helpful - just to make sure I'm on the right track. Re the new editor, I actually had pretty a good play around with the JSynth editor (although I'm now a bit foggy about what I did or didn't manage to do - like I said this has been going on a while.) I will get the new editor going, altho I'm not sure how much it will help me with the 'live automated tweaking'...

(originally incorrectly posted to the Midification forum) I've been trying to work out how to control various aspects of the MBSid thru Cubase, ideally things like the LFO rate and so on... But, I just can't do it, work it out, see how to make it happen (MIDI CC values are set, I have the table somewhere, but I can't get cubase to spit them out.) I have been trying this on & off for about 6 months, each attempt ending in frustration. A lot of posts seem to hint that it's possible, or that people have done similar things, but, there's not enough detail (if any) to follow. There was a guy making a control surface (saschazone.de) but he seems to have stopped updating his site, and I'm guessing by extension, stopped working on the control surface. If anyone could point me in the right direction over how to get more control over my MBSid, I would be very happy indeed! Thanks, Charlie