MaG2k Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) i added 4 PCBs yesterday Edited November 15, 2012 by MaG2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 what is the price with 500 boards on the order :laugh: I haven't asked to my manufacturer but unfortunately after 100 units the price drop but not as much as before 100s, and more you order more the drop is decreasing. Anyway I think that 9€ is a very good price for that sized PCB! We can hope a slightly drop with the reach of 150s but it should be not so important. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 To be more precise: 150 units: 8,50€. 200 units: 8,00€. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Bad news: Mouser do not stock enough SIL resistor networks. Mouser estimate to receive the new stocks for the December 5th 2012. I propose to modify the time-frame accordingly: Bulk order start: October 29th 2012.End of the list: November 18th 2012.I PM (or email) member with the total amount to pay: November 18th - 20th 2012.Payments will be accepted until November 25th 2012.I order the PCBs and the Mouser order: November 26th 2012.PCBs order arrive near the December 5th 2012.Mouser order arrive near the December 12th 2012.I ship the PCBs and Mouser components to each member: December 13th - 15th 2012. This time frame may be subject to change due to unforeseeable events. I'm waiting your feedback about this new time-frame to update the Wikipage. Regards, Jerome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Why not leave the bulk order open for one more week, so that PCBs and Mouser items will both arrive close to December 12? Maybe some more people are willing to join :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Why not leave the bulk order open for one more week, so that PCBs and Mouser items will both arrive close to December 12? Maybe some more people are willing to join :) ...Exact. New time-frame: Bulk order start: October 29th 2012.End of the list: November 23th 2012.I PM (or email) member with the total amount to pay: November 24th - 26th 2012.Payments will be accepted until November 30th.I order the PCBs and the Mouser order: December 1st 2012.PCBs and Mouser order arrive near the December 12th 2012.I ship the PCBs and Mouser components to each member: December 13th - 15th 2012. I will update the Wikipage if there is no other feedback in the afternoon. [Edit: Wikipage updated.] Regards, Jerome. Edited November 17, 2012 by Fairlightiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antix Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hi, I think it is OK but how do you get the stock avalaibility date? Do you phoned them? Often the date on the site is not sure at all. Regards Antonio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I think it is OK but how do you get the stock avalaibility date? Do you phoned them? It is the date indicated in their site. Often the date on the site is not sure at all. Thank you for the information: I sent to Mouser an email to confirm this shipping date and wait their answer. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 ...Mouser just confirmed the date of the December 5th 2012. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsdonnes Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Makes sense to me to extend the time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) I slightly modified the design of the board. The revision is now 2.4 and the improvements are: Cap C5 positioning near "IN" DIL header.Silkscreen improvements. I've named the board "MB-2X8LRE-CS" trying to respect more or less the Midibox naming. "MB" stand for Midibox. "2X8" because 2 rows of 8 columns (maybe one day there will have 2X4 or 1X8 board). "LRE" stand for LedRings Encoders. "CS" stand for Control Surface. I would like to have your feedback about it and waiting your suggestions. Regards. Edited November 17, 2012 by Fairlightiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Sounds reasonable to me, although I would probably put it MB-LRE8x2CS, as the LRE is the more important info compared to the 8x2 "form factor". Also, I think we had the BLM 16x4, for which the number of columns were mentioned before the number of rows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Sounds reasonable to me, although I would probably put it MB-LRE8x2CS, as the LRE is the more important info compared to the 8x2 "form factor". Also, I think we had the BLM 16x4, for which the number of columns were mentioned before the number of rows. MB-LRE8x2CS adopted (if anybody see any objection). Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Updated price of the DIL RN in the Wiki because we reach 200 units: 0,26 €. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Hi, I just took a look the the hi-res PDF layout - have you performed a design rules check (DRC) and resolved all errors? It seems that every other LED shows a marker that looks as if DRC had detected something? Also, I think that some of the tolerances might be a little on the risky side, e.g. with respect to distance between some tracks and ground plane. Your manufacturer might support those tolerances, but are you on a 0% failure rate guarantee? If not it might make sense to increase tolerances somewhat. Best, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Hi, I just took a look the the hi-res PDF layout - have you performed a design rules check (DRC) and resolved all errors? It seems that every other LED shows a marker that looks as if DRC had detected something? Also, I think that some of the tolerances might be a little on the risky side, e.g. with respect to distance between some tracks and ground plane. Your manufacturer might support those tolerances, but are you on a 0% failure rate guarantee? If not it might make sense to increase tolerances somewhat. Best, ilmenator Thank you ilmenator for having checked the layout. The layout pass the Eagle DRC default rules (8mil minimum clearance, 10mil minimum wire width, ...). I do not use extra "risky" tolerance that some manufacturers can handle. The yellow x-crosses you can see are "zero length airwires", they appear when the intersection of 2 wires of the same signal are not exactly on the same grid (in our case, they are produced near pads but the connection is made effectively inside the pad). Tim/smashtv already made his observations of this in during the design. Regards. Edited November 16, 2012 by Fairlightiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This is a better layout with a scale factor of 1,7. Regards.Layout_scale_factor_x1.7.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Sorry, I did not remember Tim's comment. Obviously, everything is under control, that's very good :thumbsup: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Sorry, I did not remember Tim's comment. Obviously, everything is under control, that's very good :thumbsup: . You're welcome. Two pairs of eyes are better than one. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinama Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 added order for n°4 pcb - n°32 10k SIL RN - n°8 220 Ohm DIL RN good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoulblues Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 salut n°2 pcb - n°16 10k SIL RN - n°4 220 Ohm DIL RN merci d'avance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) salut n°2 pcb - n°16 10k SIL RN - n°4 220 Ohm DIL RN merci d'avance Hi Raoul. Can you fill the Wiki page? If you have problem to do so, email me. Regards. Bonjour Raoul. Pourrais-tu remplir la page Wiki? Si tu as un probleme pour le faire, email moi (voir mon profil). Cordialement. Edited November 17, 2012 by Fairlightiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomiboy99 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 4 more PCBs added to the wiki page. Nice design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 upgrading to 8 boards, as * i am an illumination wh*re :) * this will be the maximum amount of boards natively supported by the new MIDIbox NG (two SRIO chains with 16x2 shift registers each) * maybe we can reach 150 boards and get a 50 cents rebate per board :) * you have gotta love the design - thanks Jérôme :-) Many greets, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlightiii Posted November 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Thanks Peter. ...I think I must update ASAP the shipping cost table. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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