hi there thanks for the reply, opitec do have a uk office, the main warehouse is in germany... i don't know the exact web address, maybe www.opitec.de or www.de.opitec.com or just www.opitec.com they are an educational supplier who also sells to private individuals..... they sell a whole range of creative type stuff, tools for most crafts, metalworking, electronics, lots of different art materials, in the uk a lot of their stuff is much much cheaper than in local shops I thought they would be worth mentioning here as another source of parts.. they only have a small range of components but a lot of other things which may be useful in this type of project (or just for making nice things)... they have offices in most EU countries, all except portugal and ireland i think, I find them  quick and good value.. every friday they send out an email with new special offers.. those pots were on sale this week, some good stuff does appear there from time to time... and some really tasteless garbage too ;-) best wishes Adam PS... i've just found some nice ones on ebay, i just bought most of them but there are 10 left now, they are in the uk, do a search for 50k ALPS Potentiometer to find them... £0.20 each... ;-)