hehe...I was about to reply, but then saw your 2nd post. cheers for helping me out! hope jdutcher will not be upset if I hijack this thread, but we seem to have the same problem, don't we? btw, the PIC is not from you. I ordered it here in germany from mike. I think he does a great job as well, but maybe there's a slight possibility that the bootstrap is defective somehow(?). is it possible to upload mios with a defective bootstrap? however, let's start from the beginning: the other (2x16) LCD I tried, has been connected with a different cable. I'm pretty sure that the wiring is ok on both cables. interesting: I again uploaded the mbox64 code, got the random data stream, but then, after I switched back to the mbox seq application, the display shew something like "rebooting Mios" or "updating Mios". this makes me think that the display connection should be fine. right? other ideas? cheers, nico