i'm convinced... i'll build mine than :reluctant: i'm very sorry, i know its frustrating having the noobs asking the sames questions over and over not giving use to the 'search', i'm going to give it some time now and to have a propper look around the all forum though i just have a last question, that probably been answered already, but even so if someones on to give it the time to answer... a little more a little less, what is the cost of the full pack of components, not counting with the sids/c64, disk drives, games...? many thanks