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  1. Uploading patches to the MB-6582 / Sysex questions

    in MIDIbox SID

    Posted

    Thanks for the help TK!

    I've switched to MIOS 2.1 on Mac, and pared down to just 1 PIC and it performs the upload, I do get some midi flashes back, but the patches still don't land.

    1. They should be there if I just dial to E002 A00? right?

    I thought I'd upgrade from MIOS1.9f -> 1.9g, it seemed to complete OK, reboots,

    algp5c.png

    but the display still shows 1.9f.

    Tried upgrading Midibox from midibox_sid_v2_0_rc31 to midibox_sid_v2_0_rc37, this fails at 0-1% with "Upload aborted due to error #1: Less bytes than expected have been received"

    vhqh4j.png

    So - something's up with my upload I guess!

    if MIOS Studio detects a valid bidirectional connection, then MBSID should return an acknowledge message whenever a valid SysEx block has been received.

    but you are trying to upload SysEx blocks for another device - they are ignored (to match with the MIDI spec)

    Is this true for hex dumps also?

    For the SysEx upload it seems to acknowledge mostly, but not every time.

    The FireOne midi interface has a green light for midi out, and red for in. I get 

    green - green - red - green - red - green - green - red - green - red - green - green - green - green - green - red
    kinda like that - And audible clicks too. I do get some Sysex back (recorded on the Sysex tool) 
    f0 00 00 7e 4b 00 0e 01 f7

    over and over.

    I've changed my midi cables, but do you have any other suggestions?

    Thanks again for your help!

  2. Uploading patches to the MB-6582 / Sysex questions

    in MIDIbox SID

    Posted

    Hey all,

    I've finally got round to integrating my MB-6582 into my studio setup. (At home, made redundant! Awesome!)

    Originally I couldn't find any info on uploading patches. I've found a bit now, but when I upload them they don't stick, or even land. I just get:

    A002 <empty> etc

    Using the patch manager I load one of:

    midibox_sid_presets_6581.syx

    midibox_sid_presets_8580.syx

    midibox_sid_presets_bank2.syx

    and do source all Bank A to Destination Bank A

    I'm probably missing something basic. So a few questions, hoping someone can help.

    1. Does the MB-6582 have to be in a particular mode to receive the patches / SysEx data? Or how does it respond when receiving (any lights or sysex messages)?

    2. Is there a SysEx test mode I could use to check if it's receiving?

    3. My soundcard is a Tascam FireOne (not on the blacklist - but I might need something to prove that it deserves to go there)

    4. Should I expect the MB to return some midi messages on the log ? It picks up the initial blip on power-on.

    i.e. :

    [12:32:44.250] IN : <Bytes> 8 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7 

[12:31:34.984] IN : <Bytes> 8 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7 

[12:27:22.812] OUT: <Bytes> 266 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 02 7F 4E 65 77 20 50 61 74 63 68 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 40 00 00 00 00 00 40 40 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 3E 02 00 12 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 42 02 00 14 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 20 10 2E 00 00 00 07 10 7F 07 20 00 01 30 7F 01 40 00 01 50 7F 01 60 00 7F 40 40 40 40 00 60 60 20 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 40 F7 

[12:27:21.937] OUT: <Bytes> 266 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 02 7E 4E 65 77 20 50 61 74 63 68 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 40 00 00 00 00 00 40 40 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 3E 02 00 12 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 42 02 00 14 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 20 10 2E 00 00 00 07 10 7F 07 20 00 01 30 7F 01 40 00 01 50 7F 01 60 00 7F 40 40 40 40 00 60 60 20 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 40 F7 

[12:27:21.062] OUT: <Bytes> 266 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 02 7D 4E 65 77 20 50 61 74 63 68 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 40 00 00 00 00 00 40 40 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 3E 02 00 12 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 42 02 00 14 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 20 10 2E 00 00 00 07 10 7F 07 20 00 01 30 7F 01 40 00 01 50 7F 01 60 00 7F 40 40 40 40 00 60 60 20 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 40 F7 

...

[12:25:32.609] OUT: <Bytes> 266 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 02 01 4C 65 61 64 31 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 7F 01 01 00 01 01 00 00 01 03 53 75 10 00 00 00 4C 40 18 0D 42 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 01 00 00 34 40 05 0D 22 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 01 00 00 40 41 03 0B 64 56 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 20 10 2E 00 00 00 17 65 51 07 39 64 01 30 7F 01 40 00 47 07 57 01 60 00 09 7F 6D 2F 40 00 60 60 20 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 4F F7 

[12:25:31.750] OUT: <Bytes> 266 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 02 00 49 6E 74 65 72 6E 61 6C 20 50 61 74 63 68 20 20 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 40 00 00 00 40 40 40 40 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 42 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 40 3E 02 00 04 40 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 00 7F 00 20 10 2E 00 00 00 07 10 7F 07 20 00 01 03 7F 01 40 00 01 50 7F 01 60 00 7F 40 40 40 40 00 60 60 20 40 08 08 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 F7 

[12:25:25.218] OUT: <Bytes> 9 <SysEx> F0 00 00 7E 46 00 0B 02 F7

    6. Are there any other patch libraries around?

    7. Is the device ID relevant in the config of patch manager?

    thanks for your helps!

  7. MB-6582 Starts up, sits on "READY." and does not much else...

    in Testing/Troubleshooting

    Posted

    I'm getting somewhere, but, well this is odd

    The test app tells me that the CS pin is not connected on the RHS SID for both the cores that aren't outputting sound (i.e. it shows 0V when I select Pin CS with mod wheel event 14)

    AND both the ones that are.

    So I'm thinking this is a peculiarity of the application that it doesn't care about the RHS SID CS pin.

    I have continuity right to the PIC for the CS pin, so this doesn't really bother me.

    Also the application outputs voltage to pin D7 when the CS pin is selected. Again I think this is the software. "Undocumented feature". ;)

    So It seems I'm passing all the core connectivity tests. On to the double checking of the amp stage...

  9. MB-6582 Starts up, sits on "READY." and does not much else...

    in Testing/Troubleshooting

    Posted

    I have to admit I'm having a bit of trouble making sense of the connectivity app. The documentation is a bit sparse...

    =interconnection&s[]=test]http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home:skills:troubleshooting:firmware&s[]=interconnection&s[]=test

    The readme is also a bit confusing.  I've added the readmes from the app (and the test tome generator) into the wiki (with __?__ where it is unclear), so just need to fill in the gaps.

    If anyone could give me some guidance on where I'm supposed to be connecting the multimeter (or even just the naming of the pins!) it would be much appreciated! I've tried around the socket with no luck.

    The pins are labelled A0-A4, D0-D7, but I can't figure out what they are meant to be.

  11. MB-6582 Starts up, sits on "READY." and does not much else...

    in Testing/Troubleshooting

    Posted

    Oh wait.

    No upload request from PIC 2

    PIC 3 Uploaded OK

    PIC 4 Uploaded OK

    No screen lights for PIC2-4 (I'm guessing this is normal)

    One failing LED (Sync - maybe this is normally off?)

    All encoders OK

    Not bad!

    Will try putting pic 2 into slot 1 and see if that uploads (as device id 1)... [edit: It does, so the PIC is OK. After upload it still shows as 1*-- / -*3- / -*-4

    I just have to get busy troubleshooting. Lots of jumpers there maybe I can use them..?]

  14. MB-6582 Starts up, sits on "READY." and does not much else...

    in Testing/Troubleshooting

    Posted

    Hey gang

    I finally finished my assembly, but I'm not sure if I'm being stupid or I have a fault, or both. I turn it on, and i get the MIOS startup on screen, my CS LEDs flicker, and then the screen changes to

    READY.

    No flashing cursor or anything, no movement, no sound (except a click when powered off or on). I try all the buttons and encoders, but it doesn't give me any love.

    I know the road to midibox love is long and hard, but I've come too far now to give up!

    I have checked

    - Continuity of my ribbons

    - R80 is all there

    - I have only 1 PIC and pair of SIDs in, but from what I've read so far this should still work

      (I have all the memory and shifty chips in

    - J11 is in but this shouldn't make a difference innit

    - I checked all the voltages a while back after I finished the base. When I tested the base the same thing happened, but I thought it must be that I have no controls to do anything with...

    - I have no R57-61 as I have 6pin resistor networks (which are all good)

    If someone could help me out it would be much appreciated!

    Thanks

  17. MB6582 Underside Label with Serial number

    in MIDIbox User Projects

    Posted

    Hey gang,

    I'm still in the process of building my MB6582, but I had some "spare time" at work so I designed this. It fits in the label space under a standard C64, so the template can be used for a standard midibox in a C64 case.

    As it uses the midibox logo I'd like to ask permission to upload the original PSD first. If the design is cool and it's OK with TK & Wilba.

    The serial number is from the builders list page, which I'm sure is missing some people!

    MB6582-Labeldemo.JPG

    nice one

  23. MB-6582 baseboard part kits

    in Bulk Orders

    Posted

    Digressions aside, I'm in for 1 full kit.

    SmashTV please take your sweet time.

    Because I am a serial procrastinator and have unfinished projects in varying states of incompletion in various boxes and on surfaces around the house, even after I receive your kit, it will probably sit in a box for a good 6 months before I get a chance to do anything meaningful with it.

    One day I may end up making some music.

    But yeah if you could give us another few months at least before assembling my kit so I can finish at least 2 of my current projects.

    I'm sure anyone else in the forum who is waiting for parts or PCBs could make a Ghostbusters pack, MAME cabinet, Mod a C64 for Prophet64/MSSIAH, circuit-bend a Speak n Spell, or do something really nice for their wife/girlfriend.

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