gjvti Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 (edited) Hello Midiboxers! I recently went through all (or most) :logik: midibox sequencer options and prepared a quick reference (crib) - list of functions and options. I don't know if anyone else will find this useful, but I personally always prefer studying reference rather than userguide. Now new quick reference version is vaialable on http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/ so it can be updated by others. Also I marked some my comments with red. If anyone can explain them or provide solution - your input is welcome.) Best regards Gunars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MB SEQ functions - quick reference Detailed info for options and functions of course is always available at http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq_manual_m.html # Function Description Options Dedicated button functions (can differ depending on hardware panel layout and MBSEQ_HW.V4 file) 1 Pattern 1,2,3,4 Select pattern/track group (G1, G2, G3, G4) 2 Track 1,2,3,4 Select track within track group (T1, T2, T3, T4) - 16 tracks total 3 Trigger layer A,B,C Select trigger layer A and B (holding C allows to select others) Gate | Acc | Roll | Glide | Skip | R.G - random gate | R.V - random value | No FX Still not clear to me how to access for editing the values for selected trigger layer, I can only access parameter layer values 4 Parameter layer A,B,C Select parameter layer A and B (C switches between C & D) Default: Note | Vel | Length | Roll (also CC, Pitch, Prob, Delay can be added via trigger selection menu) 5 Step View View and select steps if more than 16 are used 1...16 | 17...32 | ...etc 6 Pattern Select pattern/track group G1, G2, G3, G4 from SD memory location 7 Song Select song parameters Song # | Position | Action (Stop, x1..x16, Jump Pos, Jump Song, Mixer, Tempo, Mutes) |||| Select patterns G1,G2,G3,G4 8 Edit Enter edit mode to edit parameter and trigger layer steps 9 Mute Quickly mute/unmute tracks 1...16 10 Solo Solo current track 11 <- | -> (Left | Right) Move cursor position Left doesn't work in most cases :( Left works when selecting trigger layers in other menus only right seems working 12 + | - (Inc | Dec) Same as jog dial encoder - increases/decreases the current value 13 Exit Quickly exit to top menu 14 Select (Press&Hold) Select steps to be controlled by All function 15 All Edit all selected steps according to Select function 16 Copy Copy steps from 1 (?) to selected # Is there a way to select from which step to copy? 17 Paste Paste copied steps Is there a way to select starting from which step to paste? 18 F1 (Clear) (Press&Hold) to clear selected track I think it would be more useful if Undo could be assigned to this in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file, but seems it is not possible 19 F2 (Select track) (Press&Hold) to select track from 1...16 20 F3 (Select parameter layer) (Press&Hold) to select parameter layer A,B,C,D etc 21 F4 (Select trigger layer) (Press&Hold) to select/assign (?) trigger layer 1...8 22 Rec Opens record menu Track # | Record (Live, Step) | Mode (Mono, Poly) | AStart (on, off) | Step # | TglGate |||| Port # | Chn # 23 << Rewind (active only in song mode) 24 Stop Stops playback and resets position to beginning 25 Play Starts playback of patterns/song 26 Pause Halts playback 27 >> Forward (active only in song mode) 28 Metronome Toggles metronome on/off 29 Fast Activates Fast mode for quicker value selection with encoders Speed options for Fast can be changed in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file 30 Scrub (Press&Hold) + jog wheel allows dynamic changing of actual positionMenu functions 31 Menu+Scrub Toggles loop mode on/off 32 Menu+GP1 (Mixer) Opens mixer view for 16 tracks (12 pages can be switched with +/-) Midi port | Midi channel | Prog change | Volume | Panorama | Reverb | Chorus | CC1 | CC2 | CC3 | CC4 Changing midi channel didn't work (tried just once hovever); Not clear how to change/select new map; pages 8 to 12 holds CC1=128,CC2=128,CC3=16,CC4=50 not clear how this works and how to change assignment to other CC numbers it looks like only theese CC messages can be remaped? 33 Menu+GP2 (Event) [*] Opens track setup editor [*] Track # | Type (Note, Chord, CC, Drum) | Step # | ParL # | TrgL # | Port # | Chn # | Edit Name 34 Menu+GP3 (Mode) [*] Opens track mode editor [*] Track # | Track on/off | Normal, Transpose, Arpeggiator |||| Hold (on, off) | Sort (on, off) | Restart (on, off) | Scale (on, off) | Sustain (on, off) 35 Menu+GP4 (Direction) [*] Opens track playback direction editor [*] Track # | Select playback mode (Forward | Backward | PingPong | Pendulum | Rand.Dir | Rand.Step | Rand.D+S) |||| Fwd # | Back # | Replay # | Repeat # | Skip # | Itv # | SyncM (yes, no) 36 Menu+GP5 (Divider) [*] Opens track clock divider setup editor [*] Track # | Clock # | Divider (normal, triplet) | Sync to Measure (on, off) |||| Timebase selector (1,2,4,8 ...etc) 37 Menu+GP6 (Length) [*] Opens track length editor [*] Track # | Length # | Loop # |||| Quick length selection (4,8,16 etc) 38 Menu+GP7 (Transpose) [*] Opens track transpose editor [*] Track # | Transpose selector (-7 oct ... +7 oct) | (-7 sem ... +7 sem) 39 Menu+GP8 (Groove) [*] Opens track groove editor [*] Track # | Groove style (off, shuffle ... etc) | Intensity # |||| Step # | Dly # | Len # | Vel # | Num Steps # 40 Menu+GP9 (Trigger) [*] Opens track trigger layer selection menu [*] Track # | Gate | Acc | Roll | Glide | Skip | R.G | R.V | No FX 41 Menu+GP10 (FX) [*] Opens FX editor [*] Local (Echo, Hum, Limit, LFO) |||| Global (Loop, Scale) [*] Echo (Track # | Repeats # | Delay # | Vel.Lev # |||| FB Velocity % | Note # | Gatelen % | Tcks %) [*] Hum (Track # | Intensity # | Note [on, off] | Vel/CC [on, off] | Length [on, off]) [*] Limit (Track # | Lower # | Upper #) [*] LFO (Track # | Wave [off, sine ... etc] | Amp # | Phs % | Steps # | Rst # | OneShot [on, off] |||| [*] Note ([on, off] | Vel [on, off] | Len [on, off] | CC [on, off] | ExtraCC# | Offs # | PPQN #) [*] Loop (Mode [all tracks / step view ...etc] | Offset # | Steps # | Loop [on, off]) [*] Scale (Control [global, G1, G2 ...etc] | Root [Keyb, C ...etc] | Selected scale [major, minor ...etc] 42 Menu+GP11 (ManualTrigger) [*] Manualy triggers steps, (Press&Hold)+Select for sync to measure [*] Not clear how to operate this function, what selected tracks in uper row of LCD mean and how to change them 43 Menu+GP12 (Morph) [*] Opens track morphing setup [*] Track # | Mode (on, off) | Dst.Range # | Value # |||| Morphing control (also by CC1) 44 Menu+GP13 (BPM) [*] Opens BPM settings editor [*] Mode (Auto, Slave, Master) | Preset # | Tempo # | Ramp #s | Fire Preset | Preset Page |||| MClk (USB1 etc) | In (?) | Out (?) | Din PPQN # | Ext.Restart | Tap Tempo [*] Wasn't able to change valuses for In and Out, maybe some other settings have to be changed 45 Menu+GP14 (Save) [*] Opens save menu [*] Group # | Location # | Target # | Save |||| Category | Label 46 Menu+GP15 (Midi) [*] Opens midi setup editor [*] Transpose and arp (Port # | Chn # | T/A Split [on, off] | Midd.Note # | Reset Stcks) [*] Section Control (Port # | Chn # | G1 # | G2 # | G3 # | G4 # | Fwd [port] | Reset Stcks) [*] Midi Router (Node # | In [port)] | Chn # | Out [port] | Chn # | Default Port) [*] Misc (BLM_Scalar port [on, off] | Midi Monitor) 47 Menu+GP16 (Sysex) [*] Sysex directory not found on card [*] Not all required folders are created with disk format - midi folder was also missing Utility functions 48 Utility+GP1 (Track select) [*] Select active track 49 Utility+GP2 (Copy) [*] Copy steps from 1 to selected # 50 Utility+GP3 (Paste) [*] Paste copied steps 51 Utility+GP4 (Clear) [*] Clear selected track (No options - Wipes the track instantly!!!) 52 Utility+GP5 (Move) [*] Moves some steps (copy and paste together) [*] Is there a way to select step range 53 Utility+GP6 (Scroll) [*] Scrolls the steps across 54 Utility+GP7 (Random) [*] Generates random events [*] Track # | Generate | Clr | Util | Undo |||| LayerA # | LayerB # | LayerC # | TrgA # | Trg B # | Trg C # 55 Utility+GP8 (Undo) [*] Undoes last operation 56 Utility+GP9 (Save) [*] Opens save menu [*] Group # | Location # | Target # | Save |||| Category | Label [*] Not sure about location - is it like copying from one momory location to other? 57 Utility+GP10 (Record) [*] Opens record menu [*] Track # | Record (Live, Step) | Mode (Mono, Poly) | AStart (on, off) | Step # | TglGate |||| Port # | Chn # 58 Utility+GP11 (Mixer) [*] Opens mixer view for 16 tracks (12 pages can be switched with +/-) [*] Midi port | Midi channel | Prog change | Volume | Panorama | Reverb | Chorus | CC1 | CC2 | CC3 | CC4 59 Utility+GP12 (Options) [*] Opens options menu [*] Measure # | Pattern # | SyncChange (on, off) | Paste/Clr steps |||| Remote (auto, client, server) | ID # | Port # | Request connection (no) 60 Utility+GP13 (Port Mute) [*] Allows muting of output ports [*] Def | USB1 | USB2 ...... AOUT | Bus1 | Bus2 61 Utility+GP14 (Disk) [*] Opens disk menu [*] MSD USB (disabled, enabled[Pres&Hold]) | Midi files (import, export, play) 62 Utility+GP15 (Mute) [*] Quick mute of all tracks/channels 63 Utility+GP16 (UnMute) [*] Quick unmute of all tracks/channels ===================================================== Edited May 9, 2010 by gjvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
findbuddha Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thankyou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thanks for the work! Could you please bring this into the Wiki? This would allow me to edit/correct/enhance the comments Otherwise I would have to edit your posting and update your .html attachment. But this would only be possible for me (as administrator), and not for other users who also want to add corrections. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Still not clear to me how to access for editing the values for selected trigger layer, I can only access parameter layer values Trigger values cannot be changed, they are statically defined. The trigger pattern of the selected layer has to be edited with GP buttons. Is there a way to select from which step to copy? Yes, select the range with the encoders Is there a way to select starting from which step to paste? Yes, select the target position with the encoders I think it would be more useful if Undo could be assigned to this in MBSEQ_HW.V4 file, but seems it is not possible F1 isn't assigned to the Clear function, something seems to be wrong at your side. Yes, I could provide an UNDO button function if really required. Changing midi channel didn't work (tried just once hovever); Works at my side. I remember that there was an issue in a very old firmware release - are you using the latest version? Not clear how to change/select new map; pages 8 to 12 holds CC1=128,CC2=128,CC3=16,CC4=50 not clear how this works and how to change assignment to other CC numbers it looks like only theese CC messages can be remaped? press the SELECT button for additional options and configuration Not clear how to operate this function, what selected tracks in uper row of LCD mean and how to change them You are probably using an old firmware Wasn't able to change valuses for In and Out, maybe some other settings have to be changed Works at my side - old firmware? Sysex directory not found on card Not all required folders are created with disk format - midi folder was also missing Currently you have to create /sysex with a PC/Mac anyhow to copy some files /midi is created with the export function if it doesn't exist yet. Otherwise you have to create it with a PC/Mac anyhow to copy some files. Not sure about location - is it like copying from one momory location to other? Group # and Location # belong together, therefore this item is marked with multiple LEDs. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjvti Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hello Thorsten, Thanks a lot for your valuable comments! I will double check the firmware version next week and check all the issues I experienced. I believe that they are mostly caused by my novice status/lack of knowledge :) Since I do not know how to deal with wiki, I have to explore that first. I hope to do that tomorrow or next week. I hope that I will have enclosure box completely ready in two weeks so I will be able to post some photos as well. Best regards Gunars PS F1 isn't assigned to the Clear function, something seems to be wrong at your side. Yes, I could provide an UNDO button function if really required yes, I changed MBSEQ_HW.V4 file significantly since I have custom single sided I/O board, not the one designed by Wilba. I personally think that instant access to Undo function could be more useful than instant access to Clear function. Actually I had F1 unused so most appropriate from all sequencer functions to me seems Undo, but I just put Clear there, because Copy and Paste buttons are near on my board :) Perhaps we need a poll to make sure what others think about quickly accessible Undo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I will add the possibility to assign a UNDO button in the next firmware. But it won't be preconfigured in the standard setup, people have to decide by themself if they find a direct access to this function useful. Personally I prefer clear before undo. Not only because I use the clear function very often, but also because a dedicated undo button could imply that it works on *any* change. But Undo works only on a small number of functions that are listed in the utility menu. I don't plan to provide undo for any parameter changes. Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjvti Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 I will add the possibility to assign a UNDO button in the next firmware. But it won't be preconfigured in the standard setup, people have to decide by themself if they find a direct access to this function useful. Personally I prefer clear before undo. Not only because I use the clear function very often, but also because a dedicated undo button could imply that it works on *any* change. But Undo works only on a small number of functions that are listed in the utility menu. I don't plan to provide undo for any parameter changes. Best Regards, Thorsten. Ok, thanks. That's fine :) I completely accept that, if such update is possible, it is not in priority list. Also note that I put this quick reference of midibox sequencer functions on http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midibox_seq_quick_reference so this tread can be locked I suppose. Best regards Gunars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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