MBSEQ_HW.V4 - Encoder question - DETENTED1, DETENTED2, etc.

[borfo]

I am having the same minor problem described in this post:

 

...my encoders, when turned slowly, sometimes jump around...  If I'm turning them slowly in one direction, numbers will increment several times, then decrement by one, then increment again.  Not a huge problem, but it'd be great to fix it if I can.  Is there any documentation anywhere on what the encoder types described in the MBSEQ_HW.V4 file do?

 

##################################################
# Encoder Functions
# SR = 0: encoder disabled
# SR = 1..16: DIN assignment
# Types: NON_DETENTED, DETENTED1, DETENTED2, DETENTED3
##################################################

 

 

I'm using the detented encoders SmashTV was selling in his shop until recently - they're not listed in the shop right now, I guess he's out of stock.  They're currently declared as DETENTED3 (that would have come from one of the HW file templates, I didn't set it myself).  Does anyone know what encoder type setting I should be using?

 

...just tried DETENTED1 and DETENTED2, both are worse than DETENTED3.

 

NON_DETENTED doesn't jump backward, but the increments obviously don't match the detents, so it's not usable...

 

 

In the forum thread linked above, TK mentions DETENTED4 and DETENTED5 - when I try those, I get the following error when uploading the file in MIOS Studio: "[269409.830] [sEQ_FILE_HW] ERROR in ENC_DATAWHEEL definition: invalid type 'DETENTED4'!"

 

There seems to be some discussion here, but it's in German...

Edited December 19, 2014 by borfo

[pawaga]

hi,

did you solve your jitter issues ?

 

I also have jitter troubles with my alps encoder... I hope i haven't melt anything..

the jitter happen only on the increment side, i use DETENTED1.

 

as Borfo said, the extra debounce modes doesn't seem to be known anymore in the current mios build..

Is it still possible to use it ? The custom encoder modes shown would be also great if working.

 

Another solution is hardware debounce with 10-100nf caps..haven't tried it yet.

 

thanks for any clue

best regards

Patrice

[pawaga]

ok, I found the missing code in midibox_seq_v4/core/seq_file_hw.c

 

in function SEQ_FILE_HW_Read, around line 771, i added

 

else if( strcasecmp(word, "DETENTED4") == 0 ) {
        enc_type = DETENTED4;
} else if( strcasecmp(word, "DETENTED5") == 0 ) {
        enc_type = DETENTED5;
}

my ALPS STEC12E do no more jitter using DETENTED4 mode !

 

I love my brand new seq V4 even more now ! Really great machine and platform.

 

many thanks to TK and all the MIDIbox community for making this possible.

 

best regards

Patrice

[borfo]

Awesome!  I'll try that myself later on today.  Thanks for (hopefully) solving this little issue.

Edited February 1, 2015 by borfo

[TK.]

Great find!

DETENTED4/5 will be available with the next release

 

Best Regards, Thorsten.