bill Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hello,does anyone find out how to program a pic18f4620 with a JDM programmer ?My burning program (Ic prog 1.05d) do not support this pic version :/Is there a 'compatible' pic to burn ?I have no // port on my pc, so i must use serial port and JDM, but maybe there are better softwares than Ic prog ???Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Moxi just found this interesting program :http://www.members.aon.at/electronics/pic/picpgm/index.htmlI didn't had success burning the new bootloader with it, but it "should" work with JDM.It autodetect the Programmer, and the pic, and the interface look very simple.Anyone want to give a try ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yeh I noticed that one in the French forums, looks verrry interesting :)I'll definitely give it a try, I've got both 4620 and 452's here and a JDM but none of it is ready... I'll be able to quickly solder up the JDM but I don't have time for the core right now so I wouldn't be able to test it :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I've tried PICPgm with my PIC18F452 and a JDM programmer.It does burn the PIC, very fast too, and verifies OK, but when i put it in a Core it would repeatedly send Pitch Bend messages instead of the usual SysEx upload request.I reburned with IC-Prog (as I have done before, a long time ago) and it worked.What I noticed is that PICPgm has no way of setting the "ID Value" like IC-Prog does.If I burn with IC-Prog, a known-good PIC (works in Core), then dump PIC to hex file with PICPgm and then view that hex file with IC-Prog, the ID Value is FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFSo my guess is PICPgm doesn't know about the ID Value, it does an erase before burning and thus the bootloader thinks it's using a COM port not a MIDI port hence the garbage Pitch Bend messages.I really wish I could get it working though... I might have to work out if there's some magic I can do to the hex file to set the ID Value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Wicked, thanks for the analysis mate!If you like, I'll talk with the PICPgm developes and see if we can find a fix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Hmmm interesting....At the moment the following PICs can be programmed with this programmer: PIC 12F629 / 12F635 / 12F675 / 12F683 PIC 16F684 / 16F636 / 16F639 / 16F684 / 16F685 / 16F687 / 16F688 / 16F689 / 16F690 PIC 18Fx6x0 / 18Fx550 / 18Fx455 Dunno how up-to-date that is, but that's the word on the site about JDM'sEdit: Wilba if you want a 4620 to test on, just shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I've tested with a PIC18F4620 with a JDM burner that works with PIC18F452.The results:IC-Prog doesn't support PIC18F4620, I tried using it with PIC18F452 setting and it doesn't work.PICPgm supports PIC18F4620, and seems to burn and verify fine, but has the same problem as PIC18F452, it doesn't write out the ID Value so the bootloader is probably all screwed up with a COM port baud rate (i.e. garbage on MIDI In instead of boot request).Another program I tried called WinPic (http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html) also supports PIC18F4620 but has some wierd issues writing the config bits. It also seems to get confused with the ID Value location (0x200000 to 0x200007).I'm not bothering anymore trying to make this old JDM programmer do new tricks. I think I will get one of those PIC burners from Microchip, it's USB, powered from the USB, compact, relatively cheap... bill might be interested too, since he's got no parallel port ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 bill might be interested too, since he's got no parallel port Yes i am !!!Are you talking about that one : http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en023805 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I just found that software : WinPic800 I'm at the office and cant try it right now, but looks interesting !http:// _remove_ perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/winpic800.htmhttp://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/descargas/WinPic800.zipAnyone knows it ?/moderator: made link invalid due to virus danger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Careful guys!!The page above popups adverts which attempt to install a number of viruses...Sorry Bill I had to report the post :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >:( arg, sorry about this, i did'nt see any popups with firefox, i'm sorry about this :oso, here is what it say about microchip supported devices :10F200 10F202 10F204 10F206 10F220 10F222 12F508 12F509 12F510 12F629 12F635 12F675 rfPIC12F675 12F683 16F505 16F506 16F627 16F627A 16F628 16F628A 16F630 16F636 16F639 16F648A 16F676 16F684 16F685 16F687 16F688 16F689 16F690 16F72 16F73 16F74 16F76 16F77 16F716 16F737 16F747 16F767 16F777 16F785 16HV785 16F83 16F84 16F84A 16F87 16F88 16F818 16F819 16F870 16F871 16F872 16F873 16F873A 16F874 16F874A 16F876 16F876A 16F877 16F877A 16F913 16F914 16F916 16F917 16C61 16C62 16C62A/B 16C63 16C63A 16C64 16C64A 16C65 16C65A/B 16C66 16C67 16C620/A 16C621/A 16C622/A 16CE623 16CE624 16CE625 16C71 16C72 16C72a 16C73 16C73A/B 16C74 16C74A/B 16C76 16C77 16C710 16C711 16C712 16C716 16C745 16C765 16C773 16C774 16C923 16C924 16C925 16C926 18F1220 18F1320 18F2220 18F2320 18F2331 18F2410 18F242-2439 18F2420 18F2431 18F2455 18F248 18F2480 18F2510 18F2515 18F252-2539 18F2520 18F2525 18F2550 18F258 18F2580 18F2585 18F2610 18F2620 18F2680 18F4220 18F4320 18F4331 18F4410 18F442-4439 18F4420 18F4431 18F4455 18F448 18F4480 18F4510 18F4515 18F452-4539 18F4520 18F4525 18F4550 18F458 18F4580 18F4585 18F4610 18F4620 18F4680 18F6310 18F6390 18F6410 18F6490 18F6520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I got the popup with firefox too...Strangely enough, I browsed the page for a good 5 minutes before it tried. Weird.I should correct myself, it is infact a pop-under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hey you're right, this one looks very promising :) I hope it's not the same one Wilba tried (I don't think so - there's winpic and there's also winpic800).I started it up and it does support the JDM programmer, and has an editable profile for making your own programmer.It also has an editable window for the ID, which hints that we might not get the same trouble as we had with picpgm.In fact I don't think I've ever seen so many options in a burner app - and so many languages!! 19 of them should be enough for almost everyone on the forum I think :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I emailed the PICPgm programmer and he says he'll put the ID value feature in the next release and email me. Bit late for me, cos I've got a PICkit2 on order....Impatience is the mother of impulsive spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Impatience is the mother of impulsive spending.True, i wanted to buy one, but i didn't yet, because i did'nt see 40pin pic support in the PICkit 2 Low Pin Count Demo Board."The Low Pin Count Demo board supports all 8/14/20 -pin products..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 It does program PIC18F4560 though, you just have to connect it up to a 40 pin IC socket with a header and a few wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Hey, i just tested the winpic800 :) http://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/descargas/WinPic800.zipI burned my pics very quickly, and perfectly !!I'm so happy to play with those 18f4620 ;DDont trash your JDM's !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Awesome!!Thanks Bill! :DDid you have to make any configuration changes or anything, or did it just work out of the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I just had to select the chip, and press "Program" button ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxi Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 great, i've received my pic18f4620 yesterday, i will test that today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxi Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 i've tested pic800 with a pic18f4620 and 18f452 with succes with a "PIC01" programmer , this programmer is handled as A jdm one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sounds like we're on a winner! Thanks for testing it out guys, I won't have to replace my JDM now :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I can also confirm successful burning of PIC18F4620 with winpic800 and my trusty old JDM burner. Bugger. Now my PICkit2 just dropped in usefulness. ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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