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yeah you're right ;) that's not only one big pro of MBLC. Check Live manual to know about Mackie control implementation. Good tinkering

2 examples to clarify the concept: 1) let's assume you built your MB64 and you assign a pot to the virtual fader of audio track 1 in session view: you get VEEEEry ecxited tweaking the volume with your MB and when you feel this is becoming boring, you move the virtual fader with the mouse. Result: the volume changes, the virtual fader moves but your pot stays in the last position you tweaked so when you move the pot the virtual fader reach immediately the position of the pot causing an annoying and sudden and unwanted change of volume. You could say "I'm an idiot if I build a MB and then I use the mouse to move the parameter.. I can easily do it with my MB". Here it comes the 2nd example 2) You assign all the pots to the virtual pots you want. You save the live set. You create a new live set. you assign the pots to various parameters on the new live set, you tweak the pots, you save the new live set and you close live and go to bed. The morning after you are fresh and happy, you remember the first live set you saved and you reload it. All the pots in your MB are in a different position than the virtual pots because you tweaked with the 2nd live set. THE SNAP MODE saves your day, because Live communicates with your MB, telling her :D the position of the virtual faders. This requires a dual midi connection but is very useful, as virtual faders ignore any change until you reach the snap point where real pot and virtual pot meet themselves. Relative and parallax are a little bit difficult to explain, but they serve the same purpose. Read carefully MB64 tutorial (pot mode page) for further information. bye and ganbatte ;)

MB64 firmware supports an encoder, but it is only useable as a replacement of the 2 navigation buttons if you install a display (the use of encoders in mb64 requires code modification). I would definitely prompt you towards a MBLC (emulating the protocol of the mackie Logic control you can install a jog wheel and scroll through scenes with it). For a quick explanation of pot modes please refer to www.ucapps.de under MB64 tutorial, Thorsten thought about everything read the infos on ucapps carefully You can install encoders with ledrings too, MB64E can drive 128 Douts and I still suggest MBLC for motorfaders You won't need to code, maybe some value adjustment to main.asm file (check Ucapps.de and the main.asm file for instructions on the whole operation!). I still recommend you MBLC :D

I would suggest MBLC as Live 5 has logic control now, that means a powerful tool for controlling Live. If you have an older version of Live (below 5) it is reasonable to build your model 2 as the MBLC would not be capable of communicating with Live. MB64E seems to be the only choice, as from V2.1 the firmware lets you control 64 analog pots or faders or 8 motorfaders. BUT if you set out the 2 encoders, you could build a MB64 (which doesn't support encoders - only an encoder for datawheel -) which has better functions to handle the pots (snap/relative/parallax mode very useful in live 4). for model 2: 1x core module 1x Ain module 2x DINx1 for the two encoders and the buttons 2 Dout module for the button leds for model 1: 1x core module 1x ain module (without it you can connect only 8 faders) 3xdin module (and another shift register required) for buttons and encoders 3xdout module (not really sure about the number of DOUT you need, check enc rings connections) Hope I helped bye

I didn't read MB64E changelog on ucapps.de. In V2.1 it is possible to connect analog pots and mf. Thanks anyway ;)

Hello everyone, this summer has been a golden age for my midibox project :D Things are working so good I decided to implement some joystick with 10k analog pots on my MB64E. Is it possible? I read on some topic that because of lack of memory it is not possible to activate pot modes on a MB64E, but since a joystick returns to a central position I have no need for such a feature. If it is possible, is there a limit (no multiplexers) and do the pots need to be programmed externally (no editors in MB64E for pots only for encoders)? Thanks in advance

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Hello everybody! Could anyone point me in the right direction? I've got 12 buttons in my MB64, and I would like to assign 8 buttons to setup change (patch change) and 4 buttons to switch setups for these buttons from 1-8 on 1st bankstick, 9-16 on 1st bankstick, 17-24 on 2nd bankstick and 25-32 on 2nd bankstick. Is it doable with meta events or I'm wrong? Thanks in advance

In which way it is possible to assign a midi event/channel to each button in the matrix?

I don't know what was the purpose of the oki IC's in the genesis, but I'm sure that a 8Kb rom was exclusively dedicated for sound. The real trouble is that the coprocessor Z80 was responsible for controlling the YM and the Texas Instruments PSG. The Z80 is clocked @ 4MhZ, slower than the 18f452. It would be very interesting to reuse a Sega Nomad board (very very small!) by interfacing the Z80 to the pic. The good thing is that the 68k was clocked at ca. 7Mhz amd programmed in assembly and in C with Amiga or IBM :D

I'm rather sure you need to modify the opl3 module. The Genesis chip had different functions and features compared to the opl2 and opl3. Six concurrent FM channels, the sixth channel can be used as an FM or DAC channel (but not both) Four operators per channel, 2 timers and a low frequency oscillator. It is basically closer to the Yamaha DX100 sonic engine specs (not so powerful) but I'm quite sure that it is possible to control the YM2612 under mios/midibox platform. Although the YM2612 is an ancestor of YM3812 and YMF262 it has a unique FM sound, like other OKI soundchips found in arcade machines. A lot of treasure titles for megadrive demonstrate the excellence of the YM2612, so I think it would be cool to find datasheet and work on a YM2612 module! DAC drums are marvelous in GYM scene :D

Hello, I'd like to buy this GLCD http://www.delta-opto.com.tw/PRODUCTS/module-PDD2401GM04%20Spec.pdf but the IC driver is not mentioned. The pins are compatible, except for CS3 and CS4 that are missing. What do you think?

I'm really amazed by the great work Jim and Thorsten made with the matrix handling application. Just a thought: is it possible to enhance the code to map each single button of the matrix to send to different channels (split zones) or that would cause too much latency? I noticed that Thorsten eliminated display update in 2nd example because of the latency determined by it.. so could a button events editor be unreachable?

Thank you very much :D

RD2 of the pic broke down after I left the microprocessor out various times from the socket to program it on the jdm module; the multimeter did not inform me of the fake contacts (maybe something broke inside the pic) and I lost 2 days troubleshooting! With a new fresh pic everything is ok, and next time something is not working I'll have the pic-malfunction phobia :D thanks for the help

Hi, I've got a problem. I have a core with MB64 app, I stuffed it with an LCD in a little case. The fact is that I need 8 digital inputs for navigation buttons and general purpose buttons in this tiny box which is connected to another case stuffed with a DINx4. The boxes are separated, I connected the DINx4 to the sub d port, but I would like to chain a DINx1 to the DINx4. I found schematics for a single DINx1, but I'm having problems connecting the DINx1 to the DINx4 (DINx4 doesn't work) I think the SC lines and RC lines are not properly connected, and I can't figure out from the DINx4 schematic why it doesn't work. Could anybody help?

Hi Axel, the beta version is working good with ledmeters and displays? what about the choice of displays for Live? 2CLCD's or the GLCD?

You got some funny time betatesting eh? ;) Good work Axel Fooley

I have reproduced some of the awesome drum sounds found in Martin Walker's works for Activision (ninja spirit and so on). Is there anyone who has done that before? I'd like to check if there's a better combination of wavetables parameters than the one I've used to have a more accurate result

Can't help you since I've never used traktor DJ studio, you should check if it has native MCU support

Fantastico! thanks axel, I'm already ordering the parts for MBlc+1extension, I'll put panasonic EVAN motorfaders so I'll test them. You're giving me very good news as Live is the best HOST for live performances.

It is still possible to find commercial controllers stuffed with motorfaders that are more reliable in accuracy and noise level than Midibox. But I think that a little noise is something you can forget when you can entirely customize your controller and (last but not less important) you DO know how to repair it if something breaks (and with some commercial controllers this happen, believe me). And who knows, improvement seems to be an everyday routine in the midibox world! 1) I think the ALPS rsaon are the best compromise, but the panasonic EVAN is faster (sometimes too much). Check ucapps.de info about MF modules for comments on tested models 2) As long as I know, Cubase SX has a midi out interface capable of sending updates to the faders. Should be OK 3) I think you can save a MF module if you need only one more motorfader by building on a vectorboard the circuitry nedeed for the 17th fader. In addiction to this, maybe it could be better to build a DIN module for the touch sensors (17 inputs for the 17 faders) very useful to put the motor in idle when you need to tweak. Also you need the 4 buttons to navigate through the menu. The pic burner is a replacement for the jdm module, check the respective descriptions and choose one or find someone who can burn the bootstrap for you 4) Sure, it is correct indeed. 5) With touch sensors or cheap thumbtacks and appropriate faders modes it is completely doable Hope it helped good luck

Thanks! Anyway, Live is capable of sending updates, but has anyone already tried the ALPS RSAON motorfaders mounted in a midibox to control Live? Does it work?

Hi everyone, is there anyone who can explain me how motorfaders reach their positions? I don't know if I'm correct, is it the midi out of the Host application in the PC which sends position data to the motorfaders? I'm designing a controller for Ableton Live tracks, and it would be really useful to open a project in Live and have the faders in the position of the last mix. Live4 midi out implementation is a little poor, is it possible to let motorfaders work with Live?