The point is that if people buy a midibox knowing zilch about how it works or how a soldering iron works, etc. then a year down the line when it breaks down cos it was made by someone with less than brillant soldering skills comes back (here) and wants support for something someone else made money on. And thats just not quite fair. If people want to make money out of midi boxes, they could (i think), sell components and kits like smash and mike, do soldering classes etc, or offer support for people who have problems, for example i have no problems with someone coming on the forum,and after lots of advice and trying someone saying put it in a jiffy bag and il fix it for a couple of quid or something but selling boxes kills the whole diy thing off and doesnt encorrage people to do stuff for themselves. kits & support etc make it more likely that people will give the diy thing a go.