right, I have connected up an LCD to see if the MIOS display can give me any extra clues as to the problem and uploaded the "6581 with CS" sysex. After booting, the display shows: P Â 1 Â C Â 1 Â 1--- Internal Patch I understand that the P value is the patch number from 1-128, and that the C value is the MIDI channel, which is defenately 1 in my case, I have confirmed this by sending patch change data from MIDI-OX and it only get recognised when the channel in MIDI-OX is set to 1, and that the Internal Patch just shows that a bankstick is not being accessed, as for the 1---, any ideas? Is there any documentation on what this signifies?