i don't know how to do this with my programmer. reconfigure the programmer so that only the first 4k block will be ; overwritten ; - MPLAB IDE: click on Programmer->Settings, change Program memory ; end address from 7fff to fff, ; thereafter click on Programmer->Program ; - MPLAB V5.4: click on PICStart Plus->Program Verify, set the end ; address from 0x7fff to 0xfff, ; thereafter click on the program button I use the program bumblebee to program. I programmed a complete robot with the pic18f452 and that programmer and i just don't know how to do this :) http://robot.manvsmachine.nl