Well to say the truth, so am i... I think to really know, you have to take into account more than just a short description of what i think i want at the moment. The beginning of my midibox adventure starts much earlier than the date on my first post.... I think i first found this forum a few years ago through Mr. Henke. Ive been using ableton since version 3 and for a few years there i think i never even shut the program down... i was so into it i composed "an ode" to ableton and posted it on the forum... someone from the team saw it and printed it out and stuck it on the break room door. It was when Mr Henke was working on the monodeck that i discovered the midibox community... However the time was not right because i ended up just getting 4 faderfox and messing around with them. Thats a short version of the first part... and this is going somewhere.. So while all this was going on, i was employed as a landscaper. I was working on a Saturday planting a huge tree in this guys backyard and i get talking to him about 3D (i was almost equally fanatical about 3DS max and anything 3d in general) and it turns out he is the president of a rapid prototyping corporation -- -- Long story short - I am now sitting in a large office with two 24" monitors in front of me with the title of - - CAD industrial designer! Im like Charlie here - you would not believe this place - CNC machines, lathes, any type of automated machining process you can name. Then there is the SLA process, where i design a part in 3D and the same night it is being built out of lasers and goo!! Ive made good friends with a number of key employees throughout the facility, right now im working on replicating an old les paul for the head mold maker, he just needs the 3D data - you should see all the molded plastic parts he has already made in the last 3 years that he pulled out of his desk drawer. Bill the head model maker said that he ordered us both a new iron yesterday (just a $33 weller) and he uses all kinds of LEDs and light pipes and crazy tools to finish off the appearance models. So how can i not see that the time for me to become a midiboxer has arrived. The downside: i have no programming skills (but my brother in law is a programming god) i have no electronics experience. What i think i want to build: something similar to my faderfox. Lots of pots 8-16 faders lots of buttons lots of leds some joysticks or pads You know, the standard overly enthusiastic midibox noob. What i think i should stick to: a standard midibox 64 (for now) Ive made the plunge and ordered a core kit from smash with a 18F452 PIC (without asking my wife) so there is no turning back! I plan on taking lots of photos and documenting my travels well for others because it can be pretty daunting at first - and we will see if some one like me can end up writing apps and programing and really making something out of this, starting from nothing. Hey you did ask... :)