gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 My config : w98se / IC prog1.05 / Mini titanium programmer ( a bit like JDM ...)I succed uploading firms in 16F877.....But ... 00000h error with the 18F452 ....I try to change :- Com port config ... - IC prog config ... but still cannot upload bootstrap loader .....any idea ????this is urgent i need it for June 21th ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!OR ... can i use my MB16+ to control AND play 16F SID ?in fact I need a autonom SID ... to play sounds between my songs .....here also ... Any idea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Could you please make some snapshots of your IC-Prog configuration and post it here (or just send me the snapshots via Email)Sure, you can also use the MBPlus to control the SID. The CC table can be found here:http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid/sid_cc_implementation_chart.txtBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 where are you located? if it is urgent, then maybe someone else can do it for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 If you need other info ... just ask ....BIG BIG thanks you for all who helps me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Alright, did you also try the "Windows API" setting. And which voltage level do you measure at the MRST# pin during programming? Note that you can increase/decrease this level with the I/O delay, maybe this already helpsBest Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 .. i can upload in 16F877 in only one config :windows API - I/o Delay 1 - Realtime - Enable VCC ...other config does not work ......I retry to burn a 16F .... work well .....But never with a 18F .....May be a too low voltage on the programmer ???? TK wrote : Sure, you can also use the MBPlus to control the SID. The CC table can be found here:http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid/sid_cc_implementation_chart.txtHow can i make a note on with a button on my midibox 16 ? i 'm using my MB16+ for a while and just using it with softwares midilearn functions ... And this time i will use it without any PC or softwares .....So TK, how can i assign MB16+ buttons and pots tu control the SID ?THANKS YOU ALL !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 I haven't asked for the MRST# voltage without a reason ;-) The measuring result would be interesting, because it would show if it makes sense to improve this voltage for the PIC18F.The Note and CC events can only be assigned with computer, a keyboard or another MIDI controller - sorry. :-/ Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilo Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 huumm... maybe I can send you a PIC18F with the boot strap loader in it... but it will be hard to get it the 21... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 20:51 I'm testing ......... more infos coming soon ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 and i'm on the CHAT .......http://mbhp.coinoptech.com/chat.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 ...... some measures later .........Vss (Pin 12/31) and MCLR# (Pin 1) during reading ......the higher voltage that i can have is 11.89 V ........with Direct I/O with minimum delay (1)other voltages (hardware check with out pic ) ....... vss-Vdd = 13.2812-11 = 4.8712-39 = 5.5V12-40 = 6.91VSo i think it miss some volts on the MCLR for programing ...Any idea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 During programming I get 13.2V, so it seems that the voltage of the titanium programmer is not high enough. If the hardware is similar to the JDM, you are maybe able to adapt the resistor/diode values? However, this wouldn't be a "quick" solution. I've no other idea...Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Yes TK .....do you think changing the zener to a 9.1 v can up the voltage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 for all connected people .....we are on the CHAT now ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 after good examination .. my prog is the same than the JDM + 2 leds for POWER and DATAI think i can change the 8.7v zener by a 9.1 will increase enought the MCLR voltage....I'm wrong ????TK help ... i need my SID CS for the MUSIC DAY the june 21th! :o :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 I get out the 2 leds ..... thinking that can save some mA ...Now i have , during Reading, 13.38V at MCLR ........Enough to burn the 18F ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilo Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 oh yes! the led ;Dso? it works now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 no ..... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Do you have the 13.2V during programming now, or only during reading? Don't try to increase the voltage above this level, it could destroy the PIC. If it still doesn't work, it's maybe a good idea to try the programmer on another PC (time to visit a friend... ;-)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillesdeshays Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Pilo said me to put the 10K between 12 and 36 ....but not solving the problemI measure 13.2 during reading..and never more than 12.8 in programming ......But i have a 8.2V zener .....i ll try tomorow with a 8.7Vand with another PC .... but i already check on other PC ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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