Durisian Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 It dawned on me last night that there no namespace for hardware type things, such as tools, enclosures, soldiering, etc...I thought :hardware... but doesn't really cover it.suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This N°9 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 hm.. wiki is on top, some thoughts seem to reach multiple brains at once..@durisian:I just started a thread before I read your post: http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,12558.0.html I suggest to continue the discussion there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 @stry_one:I'm not sure, but maybe It would make sense to change the 'root' namespace that you created in the file-manager also to 'home', to make the whole thing more consequent. now would be the time for that, because if there are lots of files already linked, it's much more work.Yeh, totally! Sorry, I thought I already told you to go ahead with that. My bad! Go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This N°9 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 @stry_one:Yeh, totally! Sorry, I thought I already told you to go ahead with that. My bad! Go for it!I think this is just a missunderstanding: I just realised, that the namespaces in the filemanager are the same as the ones of the pages.. :D so it's just about removing the :root: namespace one day, I think this one will not be used. I'll upload the files for the midi_mapper just to :home:project:misc:midi_mapper. I think now I also understand what you tried to tell me earlier in this thread about the namespaces and users (:home:community:xx...)everything fine, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Ahh I get ya :) Let me know when you've re-upped your files and I'll delete the old ones in the root: namespace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 I have just had a chance to review the namespace map, shown at:http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=wikifySince I seem to be one of the few against a hierarchal namespace, I will concede that and instead offer some critique from "the other side" :)First:Why, within projects, are we creating separate namespaces for synths, controllers, and sequencers? I don't see any advantage, since we won't end up with duplicate names of projects. When you end up with something like MB-808, is it a synth or a sequencer? Even MIDIbox SID has integral sequencing. And looking to the future, other projects may blur this line more, and still others don't fit in - like a light controller, or a merger, or MIDIO128, etc.Since we don't handle different types of projects differently, I think that sub-classifying the projects within the namespace like that is adding an extra layer we don't need.Second:I think we need an additional top-level classification for misc. We have a lots of documents that don't fit anywhere else. Even though I dislike the FAQ theme, there is an excellent MIDIbox "primer" document whose home is in the Wiki, but doesn't really have a place to go under the new structure. Also, things like Wiki conventions (like the namespace, document templates, etc), forum rules, MIDIbox licence, all belong in the Wiki but I don't see a clear home for them. We have a Wiki page about Eagle right now, which would also need a home. Various documents about basic electronic theory as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 ^^^ wow this last post was based on that page as it existed last night.Um ... why do we have a top-level "troubleshooting"? We have a forum for that. Answers to how to troubleshoot anything should be in the project-related pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Why, within projects, are we creating separate namespaces for synths, controllers, and sequencers?For no particular reason except mirroring SVN. I agree though, I don't know if we need to split it up that way.. I think we need an additional top-level classification for misc.That's gonna wind up a wasteland for stuff that people couldn't/didn't figure out where to put it...there is an excellent MIDIbox "primer" document whose home is in the Wiki, but doesn't really have a place to go under the new structure.How about here: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home:about:midiboxAlso, things like Wiki conventions (like the namespace, document templates, etc)That's what the wikify pages is for. Hey guys, the http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=new_wiki_layout page, where's that going? Shouldn't the layout be under the wikify namespace?forum rulesWe have rules? Heheh seriously though, aside from basic netiquette and respect to others, I don't think there are any..., MIDIbox licence, all belong in the Wiki but I don't see a clear home for them.It would be good to put that on the wiki actually. That'd go in http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home:about:midibox too I guess?Actually there's probably one forum rule, no commercial requests... We have a Wiki page about Eagle right now, which would also need a home. Various documents about basic electronic theory as well.Skills namespace.Good feedback dude, keep it coming!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durisian Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 project namespace updated so they are not splitstryd can you move the midi mapper images from this to the right place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This N°9 Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Let me know when you've re-upped your files and I'll delete the old ones in the root: namespacethey are up. don't need root/community/this* no moreWhy, within projects, are we creating separate namespaces for synths, controllers, and sequencers? I don't see any advantage, since we won't end up with duplicate names of projects. When you end up with something like MB-808, is it a synth or a sequencer?I agree with that too. It would end up in creating more and more namespaces. The projects can be grouped on a page where they are linked, and I think there's not really a need to reflect the SVN-directory structure in the wiki's project-pages.I think we need an additional top-level classification for misc. The basic concept for now is to have just two top-level namespaces, 'home' for all midibox- and midibox-related info, and wikify for info about how to edit the wiki. If there should be a misc namespace, I think it should be a sub of home.That's gonna wind up a wasteland for stuff that people couldn't/didn't figure out where to put it...This is a danger if the namespace is once there. I think a misc namespace should only be created if there is one day really no place to put in a page. It's better to create new namespaces if needed that are more specific like 'electronics' or 'related products' etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryd_one Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Trashed the old images and the :root: namespace and project: namespace (left home:project: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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