ordering preburned pic18f4685 in the uk/europe

[hb129]

hi everyone,

i'm currently sourcing parts for a couple of midibox sids. i'd like to get a couple of pic18f4685's with the mios preloaded but it seems that there aren't any in mike's midishop. i know i can get them from smash tv but i'd prefer to get everything from europe (preferably the uk) for cheaper & quicker shipping.

any ideas? or would i have to build a burner on veroboard? i did electronics in high school but that was about 10 years ago, i'm not sure how up to scratch my veroboard layout/debugging skills are.

[reboot]

why don't you build the PIC Burner ?

[nILS]

My take on burners: Buy one off ebay for cheap (the kind you can get for ~5 eur). Yah yah, this is a DIY forum, but the failure rate of diy'd burners seems relatively high ;-) Having a pic burner is definitely handy, especially if you don't want to order from Smash.

[hb129]

yeah, i've got a feeling that if i built my own pic burner something would most probably go a bit wrong and it'd be a real pain to debug.

there aren't that many really cheap pic burners on ebay atm so i might just bite the bullet and ship from smash. cheers for the advice.