Guest tub Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Hi all, I've just started collecting bits to make my pic 18F midibox. I wondered if anyone had any ideas on the best way of making a general purpose midi controller (mainly for fruityloops and cubase).atm i'm thinking of going the MIOS route, but i can see that there might be advantages to using the MB64 firmware.Help! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Hi Tub,you definitely want to go for MIOS: the old PIC16F firmware will vanish from my website sooner or later (to avoid unnecassary confusion) and the MIOS based version will provide some new, useful features like a remote control via MIDI, up to 128 banks, on-screen MIDI event & labels editing, jumpless pot group morphing... in addition to the known functions of course... :)Btw.: if there are any beta testers who already own a MIDIbox64 and want to test the MIOS based version (which has grown up in the last months but isn't 100% compatible yet and comes with 0% documentation) just contact me.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tub Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Thanks TK, that's what i thought... but it's nice to know that you're on the right track sometimes ;)I'm still unsure about what application to run on MIOS once I get this box set up though... the only app that seems to support everything so far looks like LC, but i don't need full logic control emulation.Thanks, Tub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomical Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Thanks TK, that's what i thought... but it's nice to know that you're on the right track sometimes ;)I'm still unsure about what application to run on MIOS once I get this box set up though... the only app that seems to support everything so far looks like LC, but i don't need full logic control emulation.Thanks, Tub.Why not try and make a 'for Fruityloops dedicated' application for MIOS, just like there is an LC?There are a lot of Fruityloops users and i think it would be a welcomed addition to the already nice list of MIOS applications.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tub Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Kinda what i'm thinking, although i've gotta build the thing before I start programming (or learning asm properly). I don't think fruityloops has any default midi bindings though, although you can link any controller to any parameter in FL, which is nice :)I'm also going to try and write an app for MIOS that allows you to connect a drum trigger pad to an AIN and use it.. that would be awesome, and fairly easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin303 Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 TK, I would love to do some testing for the mios version of mb64! The only problem is that my box isn't ready yet, and it might take another two motnhs before it will be ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tub Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Same here, although i should have my box running within the month (fingers crossed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 I can try it in my holidays next week, if you want to email it to me, TK, but my spare 18F is a suspect... all the DOUTS stopped working one day on my LC, and I swapped PICs, and it was working again... ??? But I don't have DOUTs connected on my MB64 anyway...will the MIOS MB64 work on Greg's PCB?BTW, I can't remember why, but my MB64 always seemed to work better with v031 than the later versions. (I think it was a trial version, the first one with the dynamic pot jitter filter, and the PWM dimmer disabled) But I have a few ideas to reduce jitter now anyway (electronics mods)bye, from Steve ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftZ Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 I wondered if anyone had any ideas on the best way of making a general purpose midi controller (mainly for fruityloops and cubase). atm i'm thinking of going the MIOS route, but i can see that there might be advantages to using the MB64 firmware. the 'best' way ? I think you should have an extra look @ the MBHP gallery ;) the power & coolness of MBHP & MIOS is to build it how you want it.General purpose is sold by Doepfer, Kenton & the likes :)You can link floops to whatever controllerbox you want; more, since Fruitystudio you can build 'panels' (like studioware in cake, I bet cub also has features like this) that match your HW designs even, check out the 'dashboards' in FloopsStudio.greetz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tub Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 You can link floops to whatever controllerbox you want; more, since Fruitystudio you can build 'panels'...The annoying thing about FLoops is that none of the links are set by default, so you have to make them all manually.. or make a template to work from unlike Logic and Cubase that have their controllers linked by default to values.I guess there's arguments for and against this, but it makes it annoying to make a controller that works straight away for FL :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftZ Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 It is just a one-time setup, it cannot be *that* annoying  :DBesides, the amount of possible controllerlinks in floops is infinite, be glad you can select & assign them yourself  :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 I think this is one of the best features of FL!so, you just need to make a template within fruityloops, using the same controllers that cubase uses! ;)I think the real annoying thing is that fruityloops dosen't support motorfaders. But then again, I'd rather do my mixing in one of the high end applications, depending on financial resources! BTW, can the rotary encoders on my LC be used to control fruityloops? I still haven't figured out how to get into GPC layer yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 BTW, can the rotary encoders on my LC be used to control fruityloops? I still haven't figured out how to get into GPC layer yet!Of course! Just assign one or two of the following IDs to the buttons of Layer A or B #define ID_MBLC_SWITCH_LC 0x94 ; switch to Logic/Mackie Control Emulation (like radiobutton) #define ID_MBLC_SWITCH_GPC 0x95 ; switch to General Purpose Controller mode (like radiobutton) #define ID_MBLC_TOGGLE_GPC 0x96 ; like a "caps lock" key #define ID_MBLC_HOLD_GPC 0x97 ; like a common "shift" key Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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