Nat Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Impressing, motorized faders, ledrings, for under 250$US....http://www.behringer.com/b-control/index.cfm?lang=ENG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arumblack Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 wow, cheap....and already assembled...won't be replacing my midi box plans though..i can't buy it in pieces and that's about the only way i can afford anything theese day's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pay_c Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 :o*Impressing price*!From Behringer: " The BCF2000 is an innovative, hands-on control surface with ultra-precise 100-mm motorized faders for the ultimate control of virtual mixers..."Motorized pots, encoders and (nearly) all LC stuff! How the heck did they get *that* price??? You even hardly could get that price by DIYing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Actually not that impressive ;)Its cheap because :-1. made in China2. Motorfaders with no mention of Touch Sensitivity3. Limited Visual display feedback (4*7 segment LEDs)4. No track labels, so it gets messy when bank switching large mixers, no timecode display and dedicated transport controls.5. Behringher Quality Control, so its 50/50; you may get a good unit or defective one on purchase or one that breaks down after a month of usage (from experience).In the end its always "you get what you paid for"midibox and MIOS still rulespeaceFrank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pay_c Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 5. Behringher Quality Control, so its 50/50; you may get a good unit or defective one on purchase or one that breaks down after a month of usage (from experience).midibox and MIOS still rulesI have to say that I have only made good experiences with Behringer up to now (I have a mixer from Behringer and my Boxes are from those guys, too - they really do rock!). Really.And what you also have to think about: For the same (or a little more even) money you get that from other guys: Doepfer Drehbank (64 Pots - 2x7seg display) 333 Euros @ Thomann. So it is a really good price, I think.And: YEPP! MBHP still does RUUUULE!! (Especially if you look at the features of our stuff and compare it to commercial stuff: MB64 - Doepfer Drehbank, MBSeq - Doepfer StepSeq, not to forget: All those SID (all mono ones!) stuff out there). ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uclaros Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well, the truth is that they achived that price because it is MIOS based! ;D(kidding, but could be!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 I have a Behringer MX3242 analogue mixer, which has amazing price and performance.but I have to agree with Frank on the QC.When it was brand new, I had to wiggle a pot back and forwards for about an hour, until it started to work! and then repair a broken PCB track! and then clean off flux residue, which seemed to be causing interference on the headphone jack! (that stuff attracts moisture)But happy now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilo Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 they were waiting for mios v1.5 ;) they could use it as it is realease under gpl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 it has more led's in the ledrings than your midiboxes I also downloaded the manual, and it has a lot of features, but still, it would be a hassle, without the LCD displays that LC/MC has, in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilo Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 it would be a hassle, without the LCD displays that LC/MC has, in my opinion I agree...can't we have more than 11 led for the led ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftZ Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 can't we have more than 11 led for the led ring? sure we can, u can make mios control a 128leds ring if u want (mios max Dout number = 128 )or 8 ledrings of 16leds or...& what's more, u can make Led-squares or Led-triangles too ;)/edit& if you are really smart, you can use alot more leds too<----- see ?LOL/edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest durak Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Damn that's impressive!If I hadn't already started my midibox project for sure I would just buy a Behringer. I wish I never saw this, kind of dispirited me. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nat Posted January 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 The advantage of the midibox is that you can learn from the experience, and you can be proud to have done the thing yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uclaros Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 And other musicians will come to your place and say "wow, you made this?" ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moebius Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 behringer.. Ah, Behringer!!I first came across behringer, when they offered Mackie 8bus mixer clone for lower price.. (Well, MX8000 wasn't exactly a clone, but with VERY similar specs: Aimed directly for those considering buying mackie 8bus)AND Now they are doin' same for the DIY project ;DNah, just kidding.. I don't have anything against them, they have very attractive pricing and stuff..But somehow I think that "ready made" always lacks some features, or has this "I would have done that differently" factor.. and If there is room for improvement.. well, It's the manufacturer that provides it, IF provides.SO, stay away from those, when you have DIY alternatives :)I have spoken, Moebius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 believe me, if you don't have 'scribble strips' (LCD) it is a real pain, unless you have heaps of units, one for each channel, then you write under each fader/encoder which parameter it is controlling. Speaking from experience here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 the audio interface has amazing specs for the price. Even Dolby digital in/out! (I wonder if you could catch the bitstream somehow, and make an .ac3 file out of it?)http://www.behringer.com/02_products/prodindex.cfm?id=BCA2000&lang=ENGhttp://sound-on-sound2.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=215094572&f=594090574&m=7673092677&r=7673092677#7673092677also a job ad for those that thought behringer didn't have an R&D department...Hardware Engineer (f/m)Responsibilities: - Conduct feasibility studies and the executive realization of hardware for various products in the analog and/or digital domain, including selection of qualified components - Schematics creation, circuit simulation and later PCB layout evaluation incl. basic debugging - Component selection - Creation of schematic diagrams - Circuit simulation and evaluation - Prototype evaluation and debugging Requirements: - 3 years experience in electronic hardware design - Degree in electronic engineering - Professional experience with circuit simulation software and PCB layout software - Knowledge of hardware design methods - Knowledge of PCB layout systems - Good general component knowledge - Basic EMC compliant design knowledge and related certification support - Basic written & spoken English - Team-oriented apply directly online... <bewerbung.cfm?id=145&cid=1&lang=ENG> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arumblack Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Well, if this job is around in 3 and a half years when I have my degree, I'll be sure to apply....Maybe I could make their mixers not suck!( and still keep them cheap, the reason i have 2 of them... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pay_c Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 The first tests came out here in Germany (in the "Keys"-magazine this month).Although they only had some prototypes of those controllers they said about the following:The controllers (faders&Encs) are really good & very smooth. The learning functions and so on are also very good. Standard software like Reason (Rewire) Cubase and others are working with those babies without any problems.The only thing still unsure is what Presets will be deliviered with these things (32 presets are programable). But hopefully Standard software like the ones above will be supported until the final release.*only the motorfader and the Enc version have been testes - not the Audio interface!*So up to now these things still do look like a pretty good deal. 8 motorfader + Encs + buttons for 300 bucks (euros) - that´s good! Really thinking about this...If the final tests come, I´ll write again.Greetz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 touch sensitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pay_c Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Errrrrrrrr :-Xno idea... :-[don´t think so, but I´ll look up again and let u know. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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