rogic Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Hi everyone,I need help with german name for a rotary-encoder.I have a posibility to order parts from Conrad electronics, but I have no idea what to search for... query 'rotary encoder' doesn't give me results.Are there more types of rotary-encoders? Does someone tested any from Conrad? Which one works fine with MIDIBOX?Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 17, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Hi everyone,I need help with german name for a rotary-encoder.I have a posibility to order parts from Conrad electronics, but I have no idea what to search for... query 'rotary encoder' doesn't give me results.Are there more types of rotary-encoders? Does someone tested any from Conrad? Which one works fine with MIDIBOX?Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bolotov Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 www.schuricht.deArt Nr 10.008.68bei Conrad gibt es nicht.Bei Schuricht ist sogar billiger!!!Ich habe schon MIDIBOX16E gebastelt mit 16 enc von ALPS von Schuricht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bolotov Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 www.schuricht.deArt Nr 10.008.68bei Conrad gibt es nicht.Bei Schuricht ist sogar billiger!!!Ich habe schon MIDIBOX16E gebastelt mit 16 enc von ALPS von Schuricht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzanhZsu Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 In german they would be named "Endlos Drehregler" but i don't think that you will find some of them at any German Distributor by this name. At Schuricht they are named ALPS ST EC16B 24 Pulse , the Product Name. I think you can search them only by it's produckt name or by the Product number as Bolotov suggested.TzZ--btw. sorry for wasting your time with my poor english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzanhZsu Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 In german they would be named "Endlos Drehregler" but i don't think that you will find some of them at any German Distributor by this name. At Schuricht they are named ALPS ST EC16B 24 Pulse , the Product Name. I think you can search them only by it's produckt name or by the Product number as Bolotov suggested.TzZ--btw. sorry for wasting your time with my poor english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the_Swede Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 I thought I'd do a bit of translation service in case rogic doesn't speak German:Conrad do not sell encoders, buy them at Schuricht (or elsewhere) instead. Instead of searching for rotary encoders, try searching for "ALPS" or "ALPS STEC16B", these are the cheapest and best (pulses/rot) encoders anyway. RS-components also has these in stock.TzanhZsu: Your English is just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the_Swede Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 I thought I'd do a bit of translation service in case rogic doesn't speak German:Conrad do not sell encoders, buy them at Schuricht (or elsewhere) instead. Instead of searching for rotary encoders, try searching for "ALPS" or "ALPS STEC16B", these are the cheapest and best (pulses/rot) encoders anyway. RS-components also has these in stock.TzanhZsu: Your English is just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 18, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 :) Hello and thanks everyone for answers!Just some other things to know:Do I need anything besides encoder with MIDIbox 64 v1.0? Any other circuit? Do I need a power supply for encoder? Can I use 5V from DIN, for example?I would like to use them, but I am not sure how do I connect them... I saw on Thorsten's site that one encoder is using 4 contacts for 2 DIN buttons, but is that all I should know?Pardon my questions but I am total newbie to all this :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 18, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 :) Hello and thanks everyone for answers!Just some other things to know:Do I need anything besides encoder with MIDIbox 64 v1.0? Any other circuit? Do I need a power supply for encoder? Can I use 5V from DIN, for example?I would like to use them, but I am not sure how do I connect them... I saw on Thorsten's site that one encoder is using 4 contacts for 2 DIN buttons, but is that all I should know?Pardon my questions but I am total newbie to all this :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Hi Rogic,MB64 doesn't support encoders, I think that you are either searching for MIDIbox16E, or for the upcoming MIDIbox NG...The encoder connections to the DINX4 module can be found at the DIN page: http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_din.html (-> mbhp_dinx4_16enc.pdf). They don't need a power supply.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Hi Rogic,MB64 doesn't support encoders, I think that you are either searching for MIDIbox16E, or for the upcoming MIDIbox NG...The encoder connections to the DINX4 module can be found at the DIN page: http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_din.html (-> mbhp_dinx4_16enc.pdf). They don't need a power supply.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 So, this midibox:http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gallery;action=display;num=1039991360have MB16E core modul just because of rotary encoders?This guy on Traktor forum posted schematics how to connect encoder to DIN:http://www.nativeinstruments.de/traktor_forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3209Right now, I don't understand anything... encoders work only with MB16E?If I make standard modules (DIN,AIN,LTC..) and change only the PIC to the new 'NG', will I get support for encoders?Thanks for answers everyone and pardon my total newbie questions... :-[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 So, this midibox:http://www.midibox.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gallery;action=display;num=1039991360have MB16E core modul just because of rotary encoders?This guy on Traktor forum posted schematics how to connect encoder to DIN:http://www.nativeinstruments.de/traktor_forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3209Right now, I don't understand anything... encoders work only with MB16E?If I make standard modules (DIN,AIN,LTC..) and change only the PIC to the new 'NG', will I get support for encoders?Thanks for answers everyone and pardon my total newbie questions... :-[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 The MB16E not only supports encoders, but also 64 buttons, like the other firmwares. So, for the traktor control surface the combination of two core modules, one running with MB64, the other with MB16E, was the ideal solution.Concerning MIDIbox NG: please read the news section, where the details are listed! Yes, the MIDIbox NG firmware will allow to handle with encoders and pots in a single core application - everything will become easier and cheaper :) But I think that first of all you should explore the news section of this forum and my website, because the answers to your questions can already be found there. It's important that you understand the possibilities and the principle of the projects before you begin with the realization, this will help you to plan the ideal controller for your needs.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 The MB16E not only supports encoders, but also 64 buttons, like the other firmwares. So, for the traktor control surface the combination of two core modules, one running with MB64, the other with MB16E, was the ideal solution.Concerning MIDIbox NG: please read the news section, where the details are listed! Yes, the MIDIbox NG firmware will allow to handle with encoders and pots in a single core application - everything will become easier and cheaper :) But I think that first of all you should explore the news section of this forum and my website, because the answers to your questions can already be found there. It's important that you understand the possibilities and the principle of the projects before you begin with the realization, this will help you to plan the ideal controller for your needs.Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Thanx Thorsten for quick reply!I already read news section, but my knowledge of electronics is so poor I need explanation for everything :-[Sorry for bothering you all with these questions, but I have no other place to ask :-/Thanx again everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted December 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Thanx Thorsten for quick reply!I already read news section, but my knowledge of electronics is so poor I need explanation for everything :-[Sorry for bothering you all with these questions, but I have no other place to ask :-/Thanx again everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 and print off all the info (schems/diagrams - the lot) so you have it to hand too. Since I've done this life has been much easier...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 and print off all the info (schems/diagrams - the lot) so you have it to hand too. Since I've done this life has been much easier...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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