the rest of the world has caught up

[kris]

although im not on this forum very much i like to keep in touch with whats going on

first thorsten is a saint and i personally owe him alot

the sense of satisfaction i got frombuilding my first box 2 years ago now was emense its been all over the place all over india in the himalaya and it still works fine .and is still bringing plesure

anyway to the point  2 years ago the rest of the world really didnt have much idea why they needed a controller or how to make it low and behold thorsten close and the midi box forum our guiding light and salvation (i include all of the individuals you have contributed).

in some small way i think all of the commercial offerings out there now behringer etc have been inspired by what goes on here. surely imitation is a form of flattery (art is plagarism after all )

so why all the bad attitude about sasha etc.

so knowbody who gets some one else to build there box is going to get the same satisfaction as someone who builds there own  but lets face it electronics isnt for everyone the same as we are not all concert pianists. we all  have different skills.

so im not suggesting let big commercial interrests take over but maybe some sort of way where the small custom builder could make them for people thorsten and the forum could benefit and the builder could benefit  the person who wants it built benefits (they would have probably gone and bought one of the commercial offerings anyway ) theres more midi boxes in the worldand we are all happy.

i realise this is a radical idea to some people but my idea is not to offend so if i have offended anybody i am truely sorry.

im currently working on my follow up to the last box its taken alot of thinking and designing but its coming together finally so ill post pictures when its done. it would have been a lot quicker to get the finaces for it together if id folowed up the requests "to make me one" after finishing the first but i didnt so now finally two years later its happening

lets hope the debate can move forward

kris 

[moebius]

Hi, kris.

For some reasons, the ideas You represent have been popularized lately. I still have to disagree.

lets hope the debate can move forward

Yes. But where is it going, then?

Drawing a clear line between acceptable uses and unaccetable ones helps to define (DIY) nature of the midibox. It's about sending a clear signal to the people, who can't make smart decisions by themselves, to avoid unintentional AND intentional abuse of the midibox. Sorry folks ;D

Actually, I think at least ONE midibox has been build to a friend, that didn't lead to a lenghty debate: Seppomans "Der Brat" - http://69.56.171.55/~midibox/forum/index.php?topic=3651.0

I'll let you analyze how this case was different from the ones that has caused arguments.

we all  have different skills.

True. But skills are something you can develop. Maybe starting soldering 11 years old with 45W soldering iron has made me better in soldering, but I'll be damned if 20something picking up a proper soldering iron for the first time of his/hers life can't learn it faster. Midibox is well documented, there's the forum and hey, "there are no stupid questions". Bypassing doing and learning isn't the purpose of the midibox.

Individuals building boxes for others is also a question of responsibilities. This should also be considered. With companies and their products, there are warranties and legal responsibilities. Units are tested to see if it passes the regulations.  If we're showing "green light" for people to build boxes for others, better the changes are, that some bozo decides he's skilled enough to build some mains powered stuff "for a friend" or to sell. Someone with no knowledge of the electric safety regulations.

Bye, Moebius