d2k Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 okay, added the 32 pots and 8 buttons (both test f/w's successful) and then burnt the latest MB64 f/w, turned power on and I got a 'MIDI time-out! - What's Up ???' msg after the intial intro screen confirming f/w present...this is what was coming out the midi out port:replaced the 6n138 - made no diff...is this a connection problem?I notcied the LCD also printed this, intermittent of the midi time-out msg:[i.1] N 4.5 0_________ 0_Itallic = guess at number - pixels were broken up...Stumped...:(again...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogic Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I am sorry I can't help you.But I just wanted to know what is this application you are using to monitor MIDI events? Is it something on windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Are you getting a loop occuring ?Try just midi in to your app / pc and see if it stops.Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted February 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 midi time-out displays with no midi connected and with either midi in or out connected - dont matter, still displays it right after f/w screen....rogic - that midi mon is from scope, i'm using a pulsar2...cheers....Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted February 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 midi does seem to be cool tho, i burnt the ain test again and it's outputting correctly knob 1 gives out cc values (0-127) on cc64, knob2 cc65, knob3 cc66 etc...so if midi appears okay with this test f/w what else could be the prob? what should the lcd display after u burn the mb64 f/w (after the boot-up f/w msg)?:/cheersDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 still no developments...:(just to make sure - i'm using a dinx4 but with only 8 buttons on this box. buttons are connected to the first IC (other sockets left unstuffed but with 10k pullup resistors) - 4 buttons go to din J3, and the other 4 to din J4 - the gnd of all 8 to Vs on J3....again with the din test f/w the buttons worked fine...even tried a new pic - still gettin the message :(what could it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hey DanI just had a look back down the list and someone had a problem with this.Thier crystal was not exactly 20mhz.It came with a kit and was a gnats dick out.The box functioned ok but timed out all the time.Just a suggestion ;)Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 hi ian, yeh I saw that most too on whilst looking to see if any other users had this prob...the xtal i'm using is 20mhz bang on (ordered from reichfelt using T's order list to make sure it would be the right one). Mebbe i should try replacing it - but wudnt i get the same midi timeout error when runnin the AIN and DIN test f/w's if it was the xtal? As i said, when using the AIN/DIN test f/w's midi output if fine and stable...HmmmmCheers...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 replaced xtal just to make sure - still the same time out msg as before :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Eeeeek ???Tried an earlier version ? Not that it should make any diff.I'm running out of ideas. ???Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 yeah, as well as v1.01 I also tried v1 of the mb64 f/w and also the mbseq f/w - still get the same midi time out msg right after the boot/f/w version screen :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Where are you DanDo you ever go to sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 lol ian... ;DI was aiming for a few hrs but I just wanted to get this box out the way - I finally got the pots and buttons workin today/yesterday (what day is it :p) and this error message wouldnt leave my mind! I've put so much into these projects I have no option but to get them finished...which i want to do neways ;)I've havnt even made a track in months as the aim of it all was to invest the time gettin the studio setup exactly how i wanted it - hence all these midi boxes...I'm in England btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 o plus, i'm on a always-on-ADSL connex, so i tend to leave this site on my 2nd monitor - since I'm askin q's every 5mins :P so thats y my nik is here alotpeaceD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Ok last shot at this from me.Maybe you have either a dry joint or a crappy pot which is sending a trillion inputs during boot up and it can't cope, you know like when you have dirt in a pot and it scratches and stuff.Does the test use all hooked up pots ?getting down to the short straws nowIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 yep - all 32 pots to the AIN test good (values frm 0-127, no jitter) when i test with the AIN test f/w. Likewise with the DIN Button test f/w - 8 buttons all good (on DINX4 - 1st IC mounted, rest left empty but with 10k pullups)...time for the midiman himself to enter then i guess - Thorsten... lazy-eyed newb in distress over ere mate, pls elp :PPeace...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Hurlock Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 I capitulate :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hi Dan,could you check if the 1k pull-up resistor between pin RA4 of the PIC and +5V is connected properly?Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 yup, 1k resistor is def properly connected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 This what i'm gettin intermitant of the timeout msg...very intermitant tho...[i.1] N 4.F | 0_------- 4.E | 0_that useful for nethin?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Hi Dan,but it must be the 1k resistor, because "80 xx xx" events are only sent when the dump content is zero.Which voltage do you measure between Vss and Pin RA4? should be ca. 5V (and not 0V)So far as I remember you own some 24LC256 - could you test one in order to ensure that the BankStick interface works correctly?Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Which voltage do you measure between Vss and Pin RA4? should be ca. 5V (and not 0V)5.8VSo far as I remember you own some 24LC256 - could you test one in order to ensure that the BankStick interface works correctly? I'll try now...Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 ooof! 5.8v? Thats is too much! Hope that your 7805 is working?Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 all other test points are correct - gettin the 5v elsewhere including after the 7805... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted March 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 it wasnt 5.8V it was 5.07V i had the gnd probe on the dc in vss :pso, i just replaced the 1K resistor - made no diff...I'll still try adding a bankstickcheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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