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Ok next time i will zip it ;) My Modules are configured: LP17 = ID 0 MF_NG 1 = ID 1 MF_NG 2 = ID 2 so i could use them all over USB port 1 i guess... tried your you corrections but it isnt working properly. I Think i will Contact Chris maybe he can give me some support as he is more experienced in Electronics than me. Thanks for your Input If you haven any further Ideas what i could check let me know. Alexander

Ok, ive managed to get the MF_NG Modules speaking with the Core and MIOS Studio. Now there is only the Configuration in the Midibox_NG left. i've attached the .NGC File so if you could take a quick look what might be wrong i would really apreciate it. Thanks TK for support. Best regards Alexander DEFAULT.rar

Hello Thorsten, as i have no other Midihardware hee i couldnt check the Windows settings but i have made some progress i think the problem is more on the side of the MF_NG Modules than on Side of the Core. When i connect one MF_NG Modul direktly to IN1/OUT1 and route it to USB2 it is recognized by the Core, but when i try to recieve the Current state from it with the MF_NG Tool it gives me an Error. So i guess Core is doing fine so the Faulty Part should be the MF_NG Modules or the Cables ...

Well i guess im working under windows with just the gm5 driver, but ive not enabled anything with usb... just updated today to the last version of NG EDIT: Ok i powered it up again and now i have 4 gm5 ports (guess it needed a restart) i tried your settings but it didnt work (used gm5 port 3 instead of USB3, but configured it as USB3 in the Router settings). :( best regards Alexander

Hi Thorsten, -hereafter select the third USB IN/OUT port in MIOS Studio to communicate with the MBHP_MF_NG module.- what if i have no 3. USB Port in the MIOS Studio? i have just one which is the GM5 port. -Are you able to control the sent velocity?- I'm theoreticly able to control it but then i will integrte an general software dimmer function in my selfwritten Application running on my PC. So i can adjust the brightnes On the fly :)

Hello Midiboxers, ok my Project comes to an end! :rofl: That means i will technicly finish it in the next weeks. But im struggeling with some of the Midibox NG Configuration to get it all running! First of all i tried to use the dimmed Command to bring down the brightness Level of my Blue LEDs but that doesnt seem to work for me. When the LEDs are triggered from an external Midi Note over USB they light up with there standart brightness. So Do i really have to rip all my DOUTs apart and replace the resistors? Maybe someone can tell me what i'm doing wrong with this comand. Example will do i guess... The Next Question would be the Midirouter. I tried to get my connected MF_NG Moduls to speak with the MIOS Studio but i didn't got that to work either... so what i basicly did i followed the User MAnual. But i'm not sure what i should use? the Midirouter or the MF_NG Configs... tried both of them and i cant get it to run. Maybe someone can explain what i need to set them to. Would be great if you can help me :) Thanks forward Alexander

Hey Bibi, Sorry that i Reply that late! Many Things to do over here. So to answer ome of you Questions: For all Questions about the Software i can not say anything about that because its Chris' on. And also i dont ha vry much Knowledge about this. My Projekt is Designed to work without a Driver at first and when i have the Time/Motivation for building a driver maybe with it. i interated the LEDs for Later Updates. Two Screens: no there ist no possebility at the moment. I dont Think that your Solution will work because 2 Consoles/PCs in the same Session will not share one programmer so u cant realy use the second screen for Presets and stuff. For the Fader Labeling it would be a possebility. There are Button Caps for Labeling aviable at Bürklin. Just search for them. best wishes Alexander

OK Midibox_NG is running :rofl: ! So just let me know what you think about this Project till this Point no help needed anymore :smile: Best wishes Alexander

Nice :)

Here my Config until now. just configurated some buttons and heres also a matrix connection diagram. The Numbers should be the Button IDs DEFAULT.rar

Hey Guys, in this Thread i Want to Present my first Midibox Project. Not only because it is maybe interesting for others but also to provide met some Help from you guys because im stuck with the Midibox_NG Configuration. For the better readability i will Write this Post in English so as many of you as possible can give me help and Feedback. Please excuse when i do some mistakes with the language. So to start at the very Beginning: With 14 Years i started to work with MA-lightings Control Software GrandMA OnPC (http://malighting.de/) . Some day i though about some sort of hardware controller for it. I started to google for it and found out that theres a possibility to connect the BCF2000 from Behringer to the software and even get the motorfaders to work with a special driver. So i ordered my first BCF2000. Over the time an with the money i got from my lighting jobs i got: Two BCF2000, several Touchscreens, a Novation Launpad and some Griffin Powermate USB Encoders. With this stuff build into a case together with a ripped apart Laptop i got my own first Lighting desk over Midi. [Picture] This thing does its Job for about 1,5 Years now. The only Problem is that its not running very stable because of the many USB devices connected and the old Laptop in it. So i started looking for a better more custom solution. I saw several people in the internet doing exactly what i want, a custom hardware midicontroller to control GrandMA OnPC. Some of them even in this Forum but in my first attempts i wanted to go with Doepfer USB64 and another Buttonboard from them. Based on this Boards i designed some PCB Layouts and did them myself in my home workshop but i never get them to run. [Picture] I got in Contact with another Midiboxer (ChrisK) you can find his Project under ww.notapage.net an he finally convinced me to switch over to Midibox. One of the reasons for that was the fact that the Doepfer Modules would have cost me about 450€ in Total and that the Midibox is way more flexible in its Configuration. So, throw away everything ive planned till this Point and started a complete new project. With Chris‘ help i understood the Basics of the Midiboxconcept very quick and decided to go with a MIO128 Application to get my Buttons to run and with some MF_NG Modules to get the 12 Faders into the Midibox. Ive used hours and hours to read on Ucapps and make my thougts about how i can build this Projekt. Later this will safe me a lot of time but at this Point i nearly stopped the Project withot even had one Cable soldered. But i did go on :smile: so now the more interesting Part: At August Last Year i finally started assembling the first Midibox parts ordered from Smash. From then on there is a continous Progress in the Project. [Picture] My Project basicly base on a big Button Matrix scanned by several DIN_SR and one DOUT_SR. The LEDs in the Buttons are driven by some extra DOUT Modules. And as i said before the Faders are going to be working over 2 MF_NG Modules and maybe the internal Analoge Ports of the Core. So here are some Pictures of the Building: So as i got nearly all the Buttons soldered on i started to work at the case. For this i used Autodesk Inventor and some DXF Exports from my Eagle drawings with the Button Layout. With this it was very Easy for me to draw the Frontpannel for example. After ive checked the Frontpannel with some Carboard Prototypes i send them to Cutworks to get the Frontpannel and the Holdpannel lasercutted from them. http://midibox.org/forums/gallery/image/1713-ma4pc-drawing/ http://midibox.org/forums/gallery/image/1709-testingtroubleshooting/ http://midibox.org/forums/gallery/image/1712-ma4pc/ So ths is where i stand now i got my Buttons and LEDs to run with the MIO 128 Application and now i want to switch over to Midibox_NG and there is the Problem for me. I first saw the .NGC Config File i just saw CODE!!! It wasnt that bad when i started reading the User Manual but since ive updated to _NG i just had Problems and throwbacks. This is why i write this Post :smile:. The Questions will be posted in the following posts. Hope you like it until now :smile: best wishes Alexander Ok here a bit of my Concept. All Buttons are scanned over a Single DOUT_SR (Number 16) and over the DIN_SR’s (1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10). The Goal is that every Button can send an own Midievent . So as i understood the .NGC File i have to configure the DIN_MATRIX with the following Command and with „ button_emu_id_offset“ i can force it to use the EVENT_BUTTON to configurate every Button at its own. DIN_MATRIX n= 1 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 1 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 1 DIN_MATRIX n= 2 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 4 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 65 DIN_MATRIX n= 3 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 5 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 129 DIN_MATRIX n= 4 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 8 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 193 DIN_MATRIX n= 5 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 9 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 257 DIN_MATRIX n= 6 rows=8 inverted_sel=0 inverted_row=0 sr_dout_sel1= 16 sr_dout_sel2= 0 sr_din1= 10 sr_din2= 0 button_emu_id_offset= 321 So like this: EVENT_BUTTON id= 64 type=NoteOn chn= 2 key= 0 range= 0:127 offset= 0 ports=1000100000001000 My Problem now is that its not working so MAybe someone can help me with that. The Only thing that happens ist that the first 6 DOUT_SR connected LEDs start to glow. Any suggestions ?