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  3. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    It looks quite pretty!

    I'm personally not a fan of blue LEDs for interfaces and, in fact, there have been a few epic discussions on these forums about them. Both in terms of practicality and in terms of posing an increased risk for long term vision problems.

    Not trying to sway anyone one way or another. I just personally stick to red, orange, or green for most things that are at least in direct line of sight.

    I have read more or less the epic discussion you speak about but this is a only a prototype for the moment (I could choose 2 different colors for the 3 prototypes I ordered), my plan would be to add a semi-transparent acrylic panel in front of them and I planned in all the case to point members on the risk using blue LEDs when the things will begin serious during this BO.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  8. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Hi Tom.

    Some answers:

     

    1)How many of these boards can I stack on top of each other at the maximum, 4 or 8?!

    8 with Midibox NG.

     

     

    2)I didn't quite get how far these new boards come already pre-assembled.

    Are the Leds already functionaly applied (i.e. soldered)?

    MB-LRE8x2CS has notthing pre-assembled. If you want the LEDs already soldered, go for MB-LR4x2CS / MB-E4x2CS.

     

     

    2)How about the encoders(with push functionality?)?!

    Typically you can configure this to switch between the different modes (speed) of the encoder but you can assign any parameter to the command.

     

     

    3.)What other hardware would I need to get these boards to work? Could you point me into the right direction for the necessary information?

    Minimum: 1 core (any model: PIC, LPC17 or STM32F4 based core). In case you want to use the built-in switch of the encoders, you need to add a DINx2 module for each MB-LRE8x2CS. You can find the different Cores and the DIN modules in the SmashTV's shop.

     

     

    4.)Is there a possibiltity to add one 60 or 100mm fader  per channel ( meaning 8 in total) directly below the last encoder in each column? What would I need for this.

    The faders and a AIN module (also in in the SmashTV's shop).

     

     

    and 5.) What kind of board would I need for that and could this be still controlled with the same controll board as the above mentioned encoders and faders.?

    You should consult the midibox page about the AIN module and use the search function of the forum to see if someone as already tried this type of use.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  10. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Dear members.

    I would like to inform that the prototype boards I ordered are on the road.

    I will give more technical informations about the board as soon as I will make them work.

    So the time frame of the bulk order could be known.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

    PCBs received !

    I will post some pictures before next mid-week.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  13. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    OK, thanks.  I presumed that MB-E4x2CS which has two rows of four pots would be two pots per channel.  Can it be configured that way if I want?  One pot for pan say, and another for let's say an aux send both on the same channel?

     

    Cheers!

    Yes. You can assign any MIDI parameter that your host can handle to each controller.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  14. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    so using 16 channels as an example I would need :

    MB-LR4x2CS_RED          x 4

    MB-E4x2CS                      x 4

    25MM shaft encoders       32 (though I see you sell them in multiples of 25)

     

    Is that correct?

     

    If you mean 16 channels = 16 controllers, you would need:

    MB-LR4x2CS_RED          x 2

    MB-E4x2CS                      x 2

    25MM shaft encoders       16

     

    Is there any advantage or disadvantage of using MB-LRE8x2CS instead of MB-LR4x2CS_RED except that the LEDs are pre-soldered on the MB-LR4x2CS_RED modules?  Of course, each board is 8 channels instead of 4, but apart from that and the pre-soldered LEDs, are there any differences?

     

    MB-E4x2CS/MB-LR4x2CS can handle 8 controllers and MB-LRE8x2CS can handle 16.

    There's technically no much difference but you will be able to reach the maximum allowed number of SR (32) by the system with 10x MB-LR4x2CS (=80 controllers) or 8x MB-LRE8x2CS (=128 controllers).

    The main advantage of the MB-E4x2CS/MB-LR4x2CS is the time you won't spend to solder the LEDs.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  16. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Ah well, if I did that, I would likely just mount the panel directly to the rack without an enclosure. So basically the board would just hang off the panel and the panel would mount directly to the rack. Seems to make things like clearance so much easier and I haven't found 2U+ enclosures I have liked that are also reasonably priced here in the US. That plus I have about 2U of space where I can mount something like this to the mixer rails of our rack and, in doing so, wouldn't be able to use a normal enclosure anyway.

    I guess, what I should have asked was has anyone mounted this thing on a rack before? Seems like it is possible just curious if someone has gloriously paved the way already :smile:

    Milky did:

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  17. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Posted · Edited by Fairlightiii

    Wiki page lists the board as slightly less than 2U. I assume it wouldn't require anything fancy to modify your frontpanel design to make it rackmount?

    2U= 3.469 inch and the board is 3.35 inch.

    Nevertheless, be careful to the the thickness of your top and bottom rack enclosure.

    Regarding the *.svg file, you only have to add the mounting holes (to the rack).

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  19. Control surface PCB for 16 encoders/LEDrings Bulk Order

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    Some feedback LED option in case somebody wants to use it as a tact switch board would be awesome (single color or dual color).

     

     

    In the case of 1 LED by switch, I think it would be easily doable.

     

    MB-E4x2CS-> Rev1.2: New layout including DOUTx2 chain and 1 LED/switch (total=16 LEDs).

     

    MB-E4x2CS_Rev1.2.png

     

    Users must turn the board at 180° to have the LED on the top of the switch (I was able to put the LED only below the switch)....or 90° clockwise to have the LED at the left of the switch.

    I will update the Wiki ASAP.

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

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  22. Control surface PCB for 16 encoders/LEDrings Bulk Order

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    How definitive is the layout of the MB-E4x2CS board?

     

    The layout of the MB-E4x2CS board is definitive.

     

    Some feedback LED option in case somebody wants to use it as a tact switch board would be awesome

     

    Yes but the concept was to split the DIN chain on one board and the DOUT chain in one other.

    The idea would be to create a new SMD board instead MB-LR4x2CS with the DOUT chain and LEDs.

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  23. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Nice, have improvements been made with regard to LED saturation?

     

    No, but deep test made by Thorsten showed that the ULNs are necessary even in 4x2 context.

    The problem of brightness of LEDs occurs mainly with rectangular LEDs but not enough test (...or feedback) have been filled in the LED black list to propose a (some) good candidate(s).

    ...of course, members are still welcome to fill the list with their LED feedback !

     

    Best regards,

    Jerome.

  25. MB-LRE8x2CS rev 4.6 BULK ORDER spring 2014

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    Posted · Edited by Fairlightiii

    Dear members.


    In the perspective of the upcoming bulk order of the MB-LRE8x2CS (Rev 4.6) I opened a waiting list.

     

    PCB8.jpg

     

    It is a all-in-one board including DINx4 module, improved DOUTx4 module, 16 LEDrings and 16 encoders.

    This control surface board is a very practical and cheap way to make a midi controller with adding only a core or make a more important controller without having to wire LEDrings.

     

    I included also 3 others boards to the list:

    • MB-LR4x2CS_RED: 4×2 LEDrings board already populated by (128x) 1206 red SMD LEDs,
    • MB-LR4x2CS_BLUE: 4×2 LEDrings board already populated by (128x) 1206 blue SMD LEDs,
    • MB-E4x2CS: 4×2 Encoders board, MB-LR4x2CS and MB-E4x2CS are stacked one on the other.

    And 16mm undetended encoders (with 20 and 25 mm shaft) to know how much is there an interest for.


    You will find more informations on my Wiki page.


    Best regards,
    Jerome.

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