Steven_C Posted July 7, 2003 Report Posted July 7, 2003 Thanks for clearing that up Thorsten, Looks like I didn't read the GPL properly :-[. I'm sure everyone will understand Thorsten's viewpoint... I really understand the value of spare time, in this world, especially if you have an employer (like I used to) who dosen't understand this!Robotfunk... yes nothing beats a real midibox!and I would never want to do anything to jeopardise the open source commuity that comes with the midiboxMaybe I will rethink whether I help these people for money or not... maybe I will ask them to give me some parts for my next midibox in exchange for my time in helping them with midibox creation!have fun with those midiboxes, from Steve Quote
smashtv Posted July 7, 2003 Report Posted July 7, 2003 Hey all!<soapbox>When you think about building a midibox for someone, just remember you will be depriving them of a valuable chance to learn about electronics. I'm not saying that you should not charge someone to use your hard-learned skills, especially considering all of the hours some of us have put in with a soldering iron. Back in my tech days a free service call was out of the question. 8)Never before has there been such a rewarding project for so little effort, and the magnitude of the features of the MB make the satisfaction factor high, it's really easy to stay interested and motivated during planning and construction.Now that the board release is looming I'll be concentrating on the best possible construction documentation. I have been working on a visual guide to the various boards, and the approach is to make it easy for someone fresh into electronics to build the boards, and learn a lot along the way. Not that the documentation here isn't great (it obviously works fine!) I just want to make it a no-brainer for someone who is still getting the hang of soldering.My philosophy for building for others: Show up with a bag of parts, I'll try to make sure you have everything you need but construction does not happen. Show up with a board you have put together and fired up but something is not right, and I'll stay up all night if I have to with you to figure out what's wrong.I don't remember how the exact saying goes, but you give a man fish, he eats for a day, give him a fishing pole and he eats forever.</soapbox>A lot of pro production people get to see me use (and sometimes they rent) equipment that I have engineered and built, from chain hoist controllers to my infamous "hazer from hell" to the controller running the show, so there is usually some interest about what will show up next. Now half of the business cards I give out have this site address on them, it's great to be able to share a project with them that won't kill or mame a performer or patron if they build it wrong. :)Sorry for the long post!Smash Quote
pilo Posted July 7, 2003 Report Posted July 7, 2003 you give a man fish, he eats for a day, give him a fishing pole and he eats forever. I want to put this Bible quote too ;D Even if I don't believe in god and such stuff, this is so right!SmashTV, is there way to see picture of all the things you made? ;D Quote
smashtv Posted July 7, 2003 Report Posted July 7, 2003 SmashTV, is there way to see picture of all the things you made? ;D Well, I don't know where to start. Right now the main PA rig is in my garage so I cant even move in there, much less take a picture. Photos of the equipment wouldnt do it justice anyway, I need to collect up some of the pics I have of my stuff in action and post. Otherwise it all looks like a bunch of cables and abused road cases..... ;)If you want to see a very short (30 sec) promo of a small chunk of the light show in action, check out http://www.avicreative.com/showqt/ but be warned, it's 15+megs in size for a 30 second clip. It's basically made from Russel our lighting op playing with a new video cam and Dave the edit boy playing around in Final Cut. If you go frame by frame on the quick parts, there are still shots of me and others setting up and operating the show.I'll make sure to gather up some pics. The ones from the pyro days are likely to be the best..... ;) (man I miss that gunpowder smell) ;D ;D ;DHave fun!Smash Quote
Steven_C Posted July 8, 2003 Report Posted July 8, 2003 Hey Smash, good points! Maybe it will be more fun that way too, and keeping in the excellent philosophy of a free project. ;D BTW, I looked at your ordering site, and it is great! I hope Thorsten puts up a link, cos those 3d pics will make it easier for anyone to work out where to put the bits! Expect orders from me, and my buddies who need help soon! (no more rsi from drilling pcb's for me! ...I hope your drilling is automated... ;))BTW, I don't mind long posts, when they have something good to say!Hey Ian, sorry to get way off topic, but I'm pretty sure you don't mind! Quote
Guest Flownezz Posted July 8, 2003 Report Posted July 8, 2003 I highly recoment smashes site to everyone, the 3d images are a valuable learning tool for all electronics newcomers :D. Ben Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 9, 2003 Author Report Posted July 9, 2003 Hi Pilo" give a man a fish etc....." this is quote from Lao TzuIt's not in " Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth" I hav'nt seen it in there. ;) ;)Best ;DIan Quote
pilo Posted July 9, 2003 Report Posted July 9, 2003 huuumm are you sure? It's Jesus who said that I can't remember where... I never read Lao Tzu!!Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth <- ;D can be a great song name!!! ;) Quote
LO Posted July 9, 2003 Report Posted July 9, 2003 "Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth can be a great song name!!"How do you do that quote text thang?Have a listen to: liquid swords GZA this song has already been done! Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 9, 2003 Author Report Posted July 9, 2003 B.I.B.L.E = basic instruction before leaving earth ;)I have never read Lao Tzu either.....don't intend to.Read the other one tho :oThat saying is an old chinese proverb coined by this chap.A simple google will reveal all you need to know ;)BestIan Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 9, 2003 Author Report Posted July 9, 2003 AnyhooWhat say we have a convention at your house Pilo ;) :oLo ? Quote
pilo Posted July 9, 2003 Report Posted July 9, 2003 What say we have a convention at your house PiloNo problem!!!! ;D Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 9, 2003 Author Report Posted July 9, 2003 Most excellent ;)Got no idea where you live but it's a start ;DGood for youIan Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 9, 2003 Author Report Posted July 9, 2003 Give a man a fish and he'll ask for a lemonGive a man a fishing pole and he'll leave work early on friday ;D Quote
LO Posted July 9, 2003 Report Posted July 9, 2003 yeah yeah yeah..... but how do you do that thing that makes the other persons quote go in dat little blue box?mmm slightly off topic ??? Quote
robotfunk Posted July 9, 2003 Report Posted July 9, 2003 Give a man a fire and he will be warm for a day.Set a man alight and he will be warm for the rest of his life. ;) Quote
reincarnate Posted July 10, 2003 Report Posted July 10, 2003 LOL :D :DIf god wanted man to play synths, why don't I have a MIDI port? Quote
stryd_one Posted July 10, 2003 Report Posted July 10, 2003 yeah yeah yeah..... but how do you do that thing that makes the other persons quote go in dat little blue box?mmm slightly off topic ???Right above where you read this post, is a little image with "Quote" written on it... That'll automatically put it in, and you can check out the tags...Hope that helps Quote
stryd_one Posted July 10, 2003 Report Posted July 10, 2003 Give a man a fish and he'll ask for a lemonGive a man a fishing pole and he'll leave work early on friday ;Dahahahahahah ;D ;D ;D Quote
Steven_C Posted July 10, 2003 Report Posted July 10, 2003 yeah yeah yeah..... but how do you do that thing that makes the other persons quote go in dat little blue box? hheeeuuu [ quote][/quote ]Right above where you read this post, is a little image with "Quote" written on it... That'll automatically put it in, and you can check out the tags... well actually, the button above where you type in all your post dosen't say "insert quote" until you move the mouse pointer over it. (not sure whether 'baloon help' has to b switched on or not)hey LO, insert the quoted text between these [ quote][/quote ] with the paste command Quote
stryd_one Posted July 11, 2003 Report Posted July 11, 2003 What browser are you using? IE5 and 6 don't do that at all, it's just a image sitting there, no rollover stuff.... At least here they don't... Ahh who cares hehhee Quote
Nomical Posted July 11, 2003 Report Posted July 11, 2003 I use Opera instead of IE.Although some pages are not displayed correctly, i can really recommend Opera to anyone. It's really a user friendly browser that's far more customisable than IE. Integrated email if you want to. Skin support.The reason that some pages aren't displayed correctly is that most pages are optimized for IE. But sometimes even other pages aren't correctly displayed when using IE. So I just use Opera and once in a while i use IE for the sites that demand it. Quote
Steven_C Posted July 11, 2003 Report Posted July 11, 2003 plain old internet explorer, is what I use, but for those who can't see the rollover info, it is the icon with the page and the arrow coming out of it that you click on to insert a quote.lets see how off topic we can get this thread...anyone for tennis? ;D Quote
Ian_Hurlock Posted July 12, 2003 Author Report Posted July 12, 2003 U know all....there is a perfectly good chat thingy going on these days for midibox.So far I have only found three others up there. ???Follow the thread under chat in this subject and get up there for a yarn eh ;) ;) good valueBestIan Quote
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