samy1024 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Is there any way to put keys into the MIDIbox?Thank you for answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nILS Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Hiya Smay, welcome aboard. I am pretty sure you are going to give us more details to your question otherwise the answer is:Possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 yes.1. Unscrew screws of your MIDIbox case.2. Put keys in MIDIbox.3. Screw screws of your MIDIbox case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Currently I have only two SIDs (6581 & 8580) and I'm planning to build a MIDIbox with them. So I want to know if and how I can put keys into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Ahh you mean a keyboard?You can use another Core module with DIN modules to be a MIDI keyboard, and then connect this to the Core which runs the MB-SID application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 No, I mean not a midi keybord, I mean how to put in keys in the midibox, not per midi connector. (sorry for bad English) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 No, I mean not a midi keybord, I mean how to put in keys in the midibox, not per midi connector. (sorry for bad English)Ah you mean, having your own Keys/Keyboard built into the midibox right?It seems you must use a DIN module for the keys, and some custom code also.This guy here has made 2 Midibox sids, with keys:http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,6553.0.htmlhttp://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,10928.0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,7746.msg53141.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Yes, I want to have my own keyboard in the MIDIbox. But it's to difficult for me and it's in English, too. :(EDIT: And where can I get keys? I don't want to use keys from a toy keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Yes, I want to have my own keyboard in the MIDIbox. But it's to difficult for me and it's in English, too. :(EDIT: And where can I get keys? I don't want to use keys from a toy keyboard.If you have a look at the 2nd link in my first post, the guy uses an M-audio Oxygen Keyboard in that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 And can I get only key modules anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 And can I get only key modules anywhere?Good question!I havent seen them sold seperately before, so youll have to try google for that one.Id say the easiest solution is just to buy a cheap keyboard like the oxygen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 The other thing you need to work out is how to merge MIDI Out of the keyboard with other MIDI Out (i.e. from sequencer, PC) into the MB-SID MIDI In.So you may need another Core, or at the very least, an IIC_MIDI module to connect MIDI keyboard, and then modify the MB-SID application to accept MIDI In from the IIC_MIDI's MIDI In. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I'm going to buy a cheap midi keyboard put the hardware out and connect it with a GM5 MIDI Module to the Core.And I've a second question:The 6581 i got by ebay. On the bottom of the chip stands KOREA AH111559 3. Is this a fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppoman Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I'm going to buy a cheap midi keyboard put the hardware out and connect it with a GM5 MIDI Module to the Core.a GM5 is not suitable here (that's a midi->usb interface only for connection to a computer). You could buy a cheap real(!) midi keyboard (i.e. not one of these "midi" keyboards they sell nowadays that has only an USB connection) and connect the midi out (internally) to the core.The 6581 i got from ebay. On the bottom of the chip stands KOREA AH111559 3. Is this a fake?SIDs were manufactured in various places all over the world, so you can't tell anything from that info.S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 This midi keyboard has a midi out connector and I want to connect this intern to the midi module (this I meant). And I can't use the GM5 module? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppoman Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 This midi keyboard has a midi out connector and I want to connect this intern to the midi module (this I meant). And I can't use the GM5 module?question is for what? As I understood your question you want to use the keyboard to play the MBSID, right? for that you only need to connect the keyboard's midi out to the mbsid's midi in. The gm5 is just a PC midi interface like e.g. a MidiSport Uno etc., you don't need it to play the MBSID from a keyboard.If you want to have an additional PC connection via the gm5, you'll need to think about midi mergers etc.S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ah. So the core has midi and i need no module? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLP Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ah. So the core has midi and i need no module?exactly.-> http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/->> http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=core_moduleThe MBHP Core Module is the heart and brain of every MIDIbox. It holds the PIC microcontroller which runs MIOS and your MIDIbox application. It handles MIDI communication, it drives an LCD (or two), and it connects to all the other modules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 This are pics from my 6581:There is some white color on the chip. It looks like it's overpainted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTE Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 hmmm....not enough pics of the same chip.... ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Do you think the chip is a fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLP Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 It's really hard to say. Just build your Midibox SID, put your SID-chip into it, and see yourself whether it is a fake or not.From what I've experienced in this forum i'd say it's 95% no fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy1024 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Then I'll try the chip when I've build my MIDIbox (this can take a long time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleepsnbreaks Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 The fakes Ive seen had quite bright white lettering, looking "too new". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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