lakewood Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Hey guys! Im completely new to midibox and mios things but i plan to build a daw controller for my studio! so i just soldered a MBHP_MF_NG module together and burned the bootloader_v1_2b_pic18f452.hex file via PIC programmer onto my 19F452. The next step would be to enter MIOS Studio (version 2.4.6) and load the firmware of the board via MIDI. I connect the module with my MIDI interface (klick) the the IN-LED of the MIDI-interface starts blinking -> i get a signal from the module. In MIOS Studio i get the error message:No response from MIOS8 or MIOS32 core! Check MIDI IN/OUT connections and Device ID! For debugging see also Help->MIDI Troubleshooting and in the MIDI IN section an endless list of signals appear (everytime the IN-LED of the interface blinks the list updates):Scanning for MIDI Inputs... [1] USB Midi MIDI Monitor ready. [6104.260] ff [6104.920] ff [6106.760] ff [6109.840] ff [6111.680] ff [6112.941] ff [6114.219] ff [6114.239] ff [6115.839] ff [6119.102] ff [6121.122] ff [6121.460] ff [6121.740] ff [6122.722] ff ... This is my MIDI OUT section:Scanning for MIDI Outputs... [1] Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth [2] USB Midi (*) MIDI Monitor ready. [6554.222] f0 00 00 7e 32 00 00 01 f7 [6554.222] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 0d 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 f7 [6554.429] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7 [6554.632] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7 [6554.835] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7 [6555.038] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7 [6555.241] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7 I already tried to choose different Device IDs but it doesn't work! I hope someone can help me, i have no idea how to fix this problem :( cheers, Leo! Edited February 6, 2016 by lakewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 You need to upload the bootloader through midi first before uploading the application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Just now, Shuriken said: You need to upload the bootloader through midi first before uploading the application. The problem is that I can't do anything in MIOS Studio, so how do I upload the bootloader? I still get the message:No response from MIOS8 or MIOS32 core! Check MIDI IN/OUT connections and Device ID! For debugging see also Help->MIDI Troubleshooting Edited February 6, 2016 by lakewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Ok, well then there are two options; either the primary bootloader has not been burned correctly or there is a problem with your midi interface. I think this should be a seperate topic though, so i splitted it from the release topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) The MIDI-Interface should work fine, i get a signal from the burned PIC and the MIDI IN status LED of my interface is blinking (recieving information). But this information looks like this: Scanning for MIDI Inputs... [1] USB Midi MIDI Monitor ready. [6104.260] ff [6104.920] ff [6106.760] ff [6109.840] ff [6111.680] ff [6112.941] ff [6114.219] ff [6114.239] ff [6115.839] ff [6119.102] ff [6121.122] ff [6121.460] ff [6121.740] ff [6122.722] ff ...endless... i burned the PIC with PICkit 2 v2.61 and there was no error at all... :/ Edited February 6, 2016 by lakewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Try turning off the Core, select the hex file and press Start in MIOS Studio. Then power on the Core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just now, Shuriken said: Try turning off the Core, select the hex file and press Start in MIOS Studio. Then power on the Core. Reading mios8_v1_9h_pic18f452.hex Trying to contact the core... mios8_v1_9h_pic18f452.hex contains 12826 bytes (52 blocks). Range 0x00000000-0x00002fff (12288 bytes) - MIOS8 area Range 0x00003000-0x000033ff (1024 bytes) - PIC Flash Range 0x00007c00-0x00007fff (1024 bytes) - PIC Flash WARNING: no response from core Please reboot the core (e.g. turning off/on power)! Waiting for upload request... still got no respond from core :/ the only thing that changes is this constant MIDI IN stream:[10223.823] ff [10225.221] ff [10225.222] df 7f Chn#16 Aftertouch G-8 [10225.222] df 7d Chn#16 Aftertouch F-8 [10225.222] ff [10225.223] fd [10225.862] ff [10225.905] ff [10226.061] ff [10226.881] ff [10227.116] ff [10227.720] ff [10227.919] ff [10228.341] ff [10228.978] ff [10229.619] ff ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Have you done a voltage check before you plugged in the PIC and 6N138? IC5:MCLR(1) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5VIC5:Vdd(11) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5VIC5:Vdd(32) - IC5:Vss(31) = 5VIC9(8) - IC9:(5) = 5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just now, Shuriken said: Have you done a voltage check before you plugged in the PIC and 6N138? IC5:MCLR(1) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5VIC5:Vdd(11) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5VIC5:Vdd(32) - IC5:Vss(31) = 5VIC9(8) - IC9:(5) = 5V I just checked the voltages, should be fine: IC5:MCLR(1) - IC5:Vss(12) = 4,98VIC5:Vdd(11) - IC5:Vss(12) = 4,97VIC5:Vdd(32) - IC5:Vss(31) = 4,97VIC9(8) - IC9:(5) = 4,97V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latigid on Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Your MIDI interface is probably not suitable; MIOS has a rigorous loopback test (?) that won't properly upload firmware unless the connections are solid. Check here: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_blacklist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, latigid on said: Your MIDI interface is probably not suitable; MIOS has a rigorous loopback test (?) that won't properly upload firmware unless the connections are solid. Check here: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_blacklist Okay, that could be the problem! I'll try to get a different MIDI-Interface! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novski Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 That is the problem. I had the same problem with the exact same interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, novski said: That is the problem. I had the same problem with the exact same interface. Okay, good to know ;) I just ordered a different midi Interface and i'll let you know if it solved the problem! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novski Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 did you see the whitelist: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_whitelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakewood Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, novski said: did you see the whitelist: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_whitelist Yes, i ordered a M-Audio MIDISport 2X2 Interface! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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