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MBHP_MF_NG no response from Core


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Hey guys!
Im completely new to midibox and mios things but i plan to build a daw controller for my studio!
so i just soldered a MBHP_MF_NG module together and burned the bootloader_v1_2b_pic18f452.hex file via PIC programmer onto my 19F452.
The next step would be to enter MIOS Studio (version 2.4.6) and load the firmware of the board via MIDI.
I connect the module with my MIDI interface (klick) the the IN-LED of the MIDI-interface starts blinking -> i get a signal from the module.
In MIOS Studio i get the error message:

No response from MIOS8 or MIOS32 core!
Check MIDI IN/OUT connections
and Device ID!
For debugging see also
Help->MIDI Troubleshooting


and in the MIDI IN section an endless list of signals appear (everytime the IN-LED of the interface blinks the list updates):

Scanning for MIDI Inputs...
[1] USB Midi
MIDI Monitor ready.
[6104.260] ff
[6104.920] ff
[6106.760] ff
[6109.840] ff
[6111.680] ff
[6112.941] ff
[6114.219] ff
[6114.239] ff
[6115.839] ff
[6119.102] ff
[6121.122] ff
[6121.460] ff
[6121.740] ff
[6122.722] ff

...


This is my MIDI OUT section:

Scanning for MIDI Outputs...
[1] Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth
[2] USB Midi  (*)
MIDI Monitor ready.
[6554.222] f0 00 00 7e 32 00 00 01 f7
[6554.222] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 0d 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 f7
[6554.429] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7
[6554.632] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7
[6554.835] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7
[6555.038] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7
[6555.241] f0 00 00 7e 40 00 02 00 00 00 01 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a f7

 

I already tried to choose different Device IDs but it doesn't work!

I hope someone can help me, i have no idea how to fix this problem :(

cheers, Leo!

 

 

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Just now, Shuriken said:

You need to upload the bootloader through midi first before uploading the application.

The problem is that I can't do anything in MIOS Studio, so how do I upload the bootloader?

I still get the message:

No response from MIOS8 or MIOS32 core!
Check MIDI IN/OUT connections
and Device ID!
For debugging see also
Help->MIDI Troubleshooting

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The MIDI-Interface should work fine, i get a signal from the burned PIC and the MIDI IN status LED of my interface is blinking (recieving information). But this information looks like this:

Scanning for MIDI Inputs...
[1] USB Midi
MIDI Monitor ready.
[6104.260] ff
[6104.920] ff
[6106.760] ff
[6109.840] ff
[6111.680] ff
[6112.941] ff
[6114.219] ff
[6114.239] ff
[6115.839] ff
[6119.102] ff
[6121.122] ff
[6121.460] ff
[6121.740] ff
[6122.722] ff

...endless...


i burned the PIC with PICkit 2 v2.61 and there was no error at all... :/

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Just now, Shuriken said:

Try turning off the Core, select the hex file and press Start in MIOS Studio. Then power on the Core.

 

Reading mios8_v1_9h_pic18f452.hex
Trying to contact the core...
mios8_v1_9h_pic18f452.hex contains 12826 bytes (52 blocks).
Range 0x00000000-0x00002fff (12288 bytes) - MIOS8 area
Range 0x00003000-0x000033ff (1024 bytes) - PIC Flash
Range 0x00007c00-0x00007fff (1024 bytes) - PIC Flash
WARNING: no response from core
Please reboot the core (e.g. turning off/on power)!
Waiting for upload request...


still got no respond from core :/

the only thing that changes is this constant MIDI IN stream:


[10223.823] ff
[10225.221] ff
[10225.222] df 7f   Chn#16  Aftertouch G-8
[10225.222] df 7d   Chn#16  Aftertouch F-8
[10225.222] ff
[10225.223] fd
[10225.862] ff
[10225.905] ff
[10226.061] ff
[10226.881] ff
[10227.116] ff
[10227.720] ff
[10227.919] ff
[10228.341] ff
[10228.978] ff
[10229.619] ff

...
 

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Just now, Shuriken said:

Have you done a voltage check before you plugged in the PIC and 6N138? 

IC5:MCLR(1) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5V
IC5:Vdd(11) - IC5:Vss(12) = 5V
IC5:Vdd(32) - IC5:Vss(31) = 5V
IC9(8) - IC9:(5) = 5V

 

I just checked the voltages, should be fine:

IC5:MCLR(1) - IC5:Vss(12) = 4,98V

IC5:Vdd(11) - IC5:Vss(12) = 4,97V
IC5:Vdd(32) - IC5:Vss(31) = 4,97V
IC9(8) - IC9:(5) = 4,97V

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Just now, latigid on said:

Your MIDI interface is probably not suitable; MIOS has a rigorous loopback test (?) that won't properly upload firmware unless the connections are solid. 

Check here:

http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=midi_interface_blacklist

Okay, that could be the problem! I'll try to get a different MIDI-Interface!
Thanks!

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