DragonMaster Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 I currently have a Fourier Additive Synthesizer, Kawai K5, two Linear Arithmetic Roland D-110s connected to my MusicQuest MQX-32M interface, and my SBLive. What would you tell me to get with this, MBSID, MBFM? Also, sometimes people get 4 SIDs. Do they use the same CORE module and multiple SID PCBs? There are tons of other questions I'd like to ask but they don't come in my mind for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwx Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Sorry, but ??? ::)have u read the documentation at www.uCApps.de ???perhaps I don´t understand what u meanpwx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moebius Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Hi,I'd say MBSID is better for you at this point. It's more like an analogue synth. I think your K5 covers much of the same "metallic" sounding territory as MBFM does.Multi SID setups use 1 core per SID.Bye, Moebius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMaster Posted July 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Should I build one if I don't compose any music? If I just want to listen to SID files using hardware instead of software or if I want to reproduce old songs thru MIDI should I build one?As for the other question I asked is: How do you make a 4 SID machine? I found you need 4 cores and 4 sid modules, but how do you control them? Different MIDI ports? Each SID have 4 channels on the 16 available? different IDs? I'm a newb to MIDIbox's way of working(MIOS with modules connected together and more modules you have, more powerful it is) so when someone talks about adding a AOUT module to the SID and adding a Moog filter I don't understand anything and I can't seem to find info on how to do that either. (I found that AOUT is a CV module but what's a CV?)And as for the K5, yes there are sounds really sounding like FM, but what I'd like the most would be to reproduce FM sounds easily, K5 programming is a real pain. If you want to see all the parameters for singles(multi are multiple singles at the time), go here:http://kfuenf.org/en/k5info.html#BASIC'>http://kfuenf.org/en/k5info.html#BASIC it's from How to program singles to the end of the page.The synth is really powerful(It's made in 1988 and more powerful than an XT running on it's 14 MHz NEC V40), but programming sounds is what made this synth so unpopular(~3000 units built)But, you can make songs like the ones on the kfuenf homepage http://kfuenf.org/Also, there's just a little problem, I can't find a single commodore 64 available in canada on ebay, all the bids are shipping to US only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphael Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Should I build one if I don't compose any music? If I just want to listen to SID files using hardware instead of software or if I want to reproduce old songs thru MIDI should I build one?If you wanna just listen it's too much effort... only my opinion. But who knows what you want ???As for the other question I asked is: How do you make a 4 SID machine? I found you need 4 cores and 4 sid modules, but how do you control them? Different MIDI ports? Each SID have 4 channels on the 16 available? different IDs? http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid_csB.htmlI'm a newb to MIDIbox's way of working(MIOS with modules connected together and more modules you have, more powerful it is) so when someone talks about adding a AOUT module to the SID and adding a Moog filter I don't understand anything and I can't seem to find info on how to do that either. (I found that AOUT is a CV module but what's a CV?)CV= control voltageFirst sentence on the AOUT page: http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_aout.htmlSo please read the ucapps site and search the forum before asking already answered questions... (just repeating what pwx already said) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMaster Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 There's just a little missing info(I think).I already read the first AOUT sentence, but it doesn't tell me what it actually does. To understand something, I need to know how it works. Telling me that it controls Fx gear isn't telling me much.If you wanna just listen it's too much effort... only my opinion. But who knows what you want I do so much things for nothing, maybe it will be less useless.If I read correctly, you control the 4 SID channels with 1 MIDI channel? Seems strange to me, that's why I ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 CV means "continuous voltage". That is, a constantly varying voltage is used to control various parameters of a synthesizer such as oscillators, filters, and envelope generators. Poke around http://www.synthesizers.com and you'll find some more in-depth descriptions and examples. The AOUT and AIN modules allow a Midibox device to control and be controlled by CV signals. A big reason why the AOUT module exists is because running the output of an MBSID through a Moog-style ladder filter results in VERY VERY nice noises. Think of these sounds: "Ooooo... Wahhhhh... Ohhhhhh... Eeeee...". You'll hear something like that when "opening up" a ladder filter while a sound is going through it. Now, you can control how "open" a filter is with a knob, but it's easier to set things up so it opens and closes the same way for every note. That's what the CV input to a filter is for. The shape of the graph of the CV going to the filter determines if you'll get something that sounds like "BOWDUNG", "VOOP", or something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMaster Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Thanks, doesn't seem too complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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