carsten_the_dane Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I´ve been thinking about these SIL headers on every J part of the modules.Why would i want them, can they come in handy later?To me it seems i would get a much better result just soldering the wire directly at the PCB. Anyone in disagreement?/carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmenator Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Once you have mounted your PCBs (in a case, on a cardboard,...) it is next to impossible to change the wiring if you need to access the copperside. Therefore you put in the SIL headers and have access to the ports from the upper side of the PCB.Best regards, ilmenator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsten_the_dane Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 of cause ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilba Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 And if you use SIL connectors, it's a lot easier to diagnose what's wrong when you can just unplug a module and test it independantly, which is why I like using connectors and never soldering wires to the headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMartens Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 And if you use SIL connectors, it's a lot easier to diagnose what's wrong when you can just unplug a module and test it independantly, which is why I like using connectors and never soldering wires to the headers.Definitely a good idea to use the connectors - I'm going to do that for my next unit. I didn't have any on hand, so I just soldered the wires to the headers. It works, but it then becomes a pain to mount everything in the case because it's all attached together in a big rat's nest (and that was just for a SID CS_A!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambinator Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 how do you solder silheaders properly? i hardwired the modules together but i am also using these headers for everything connected to din and dout. anyway those things keep giving me a hard time. when you move the cables while u test somethin or if you plug and unblug the flatcables bend and there are always some fibres of the cable breaking and bending away from the solderjoints producing almost invisible shortcircuits or disconnections. i tried putting a lot of flux on the joints to prevent any fibres from breaking loose but i still have big problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr modnaR Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 you only solder the SIL or DIL headers to the PCB. you then use IDC connectors to connect flat ribbon cable to the PCB.they look like this:the ribbon cable goes in between the two parts, and then they are crimped together. it then fits onto the SIL or DIL header.hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambinator Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 oh... then we were talkin about different things. i know those "selfcutting" dil headers. but i never found them as sil version. i have always been searching for something like that as it would make life much easier. where did you get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr modnaR Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 sprry for misleading you! yeah that is a DIL socket. the SIL ones use crimp pins and sockets which the pins lock into.SmashTV does them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambinator Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 does anyone know if you can get them in germany? have been looking for something like that. maybe i didnt look carefully enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr modnaR Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 computer modifying shops often do these, though you could try: http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=18bLjRzqwQARMAACSoqfY1b3e48ed38db250d4dc98caac5909f41;ACTION=1;LASTACTION=1;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C14;GRUPPEA=C1;WG=0;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=11;PROVID=0;TITEL=0then go to: Stift-, Buchsenleiste, Jumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambinator Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 can you give me the itemnumber from reichelt? i have those buchsenleisten, that you can break to the desired length. those are exactly the ones i am experiencing the problems with as they are intended for printmounting. i cant see any for crimping at reichelt. maybe i am blindedit: maybe i am really blind... do you talk about: PSK 254/8W Kupplungs-Leergehäuse, Crimptechnik, 8-polig? if i only found these earlier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr modnaR Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=18bLjRzqwQARMAACSoqfY1b3e48ed38db250d4dc98caac5909f41;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=3;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C1442;GRUPPEA=C144;WG=0;ARTIKEL=PS%2025%2F2W%20BR;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=18;PROVID=0;TITEL=0;ARTIKELID=47229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 those sil and dil headers and ribbon cable are found for very cheap at www.futurlec.com. expect them to take a while for delivery, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTE Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 The link dosnt work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Has anyone got a uk source for these. I've not been able to find anything suitable at Rapid or Farnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnsky Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 you only solder the SIL or DIL headers to the PCB. you then use IDC connectors to connect flat ribbon cable to the PCB.they look like this:the ribbon cable goes in between the two parts, and then they are crimped together. it then fits onto the SIL or DIL header.hope this helps.Are there things like this that are for one row by two holes or one row by four holes? It seems the quick crimping things like this only come in 2x4 or bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echopraxia Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 isn't this what you need? if not then you might probably be better saving your time and just get some high quality crimps to solder to some wire and put some heat shrink over it. Then the crimped cable can be directly inserted into the header. I found it the best way for trouble shooting certain areas of the boards. I would still use certain IDC connectors for 1 to 1 connections. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philetaylor Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Has anyone got a uk source for these. I've not been able to find anything suitable at Rapid or Farnell.Farnell is never the easiest site to navigate, for the DIL sockets usehttp://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mc6fd010-30p1/socket-idc-with-s-relief-10way/dp/1099236?_requestid=520481For SIL you will need pins and housings,http://uk.farnell.com/molex/90119-2110/crimp-socket-22-24awg/dp/9733272?_requestid=520223http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/level5/module.jsp?moduleId=en/209512.xmlCheersPhil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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