carsten_the_dane Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 collection of stripboard designs. UPDATED 01.11.06Updated the optimized psu layout.Anyone who has got one laying around on there computer, please post them here!========================================================Components:Adobe Illustrator file, containing components. Includes components for core, din, ain, and sid modules. Will be updated as the project comes along.zipped adobe illustrator[img height=100 width=100]http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7781.0;attach=564;image=====================================================CORE (not tested, should work):COREComments:I would like to give credit to the guy who made this core. But i cant find the forum thread again.Its confusing, but i guess it works, since he uploaded it.=====================================================Dinx1 (not tested):[img width=100 height=100]http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7781.0;attach=556;imageComment:This new version is very close to the quickview (of dinx2), so i think it works, and it has gotten less wires.The board has not got the 100nF capacitors, you should put them on yourself.=====================================================Dinx4 (not tested):[img width=100 height=100]http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7781.0;attach=558;imageComments:View comments for DINX1=====================================================c64 PSU (should work):[img width=100 height=100]http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7781.0;attach=573;imageCheck also this link:http://www.danielprice.org.uk/synth-diy/sid_2.htmComments:My board does not contain power switches. But i guess that part can be easily intergrated. ======================================================AIN:[img height=100 width=100]http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7781.0;attach=554;image====================================================== Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Posted October 24, 2006 This first board is damn ugly, but i want to post it because i have seen other beginners who had troubles with the documentation of the c64 psu circuit.And my layout might help to understand whats going on. Together with the layout in the bottom of my older thread:http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7631.30And Altitudes quickview of a PCB:http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7626.0;attach=348;imageMy board does not contain power switches, and the LED part. But that part can be easily intergrated since the 220 resistor is in place. I have made the drawing from my own working psu.Notice that the 7809 has the middle pin in the third row.Instead of using a row to go from the + of the bridge rectifier to 7809, i have just used an isolated wire.I will probably create a much more efficiant layout once i have my mbsid completely up and running./carsten Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Posted October 24, 2006 Found a core in the forum:http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/etko/photos/index.album?i=0&s=1/carsten Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Posted October 25, 2006 UPDATED 28. octDINX1:(not tested, only theory ;D)This new version is very close to the quickview (of dinx2), so i think it works, and it has gotten less wires.The board has not got the 100nF capacitors, you should put them on yourself.This was custom made in Illustrator/Carsten Quote
stryd_one Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 I like this thread dude :)Did you see my DIY Layout Creator thread? Not sure how it compares to your demo, I don't even know if it's good, but I found the link recommended on a synth DIY page and I'd never seen anything similar... Is your demo time-limited? Or some other limitation? Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Posted October 25, 2006 Thanks. Did you see my DIY Layout Creator thread?Yep thats where i got DIY layout creator from. The dinx1 is made in that program.Unfortunately its very basic, has very few components and no possibility to import components. I would like another program. But for the Din and dout modules it will do fine.I think that the resulting image from diy layout creator is pretty nice and easy to overview.The demo should have a timelimit for saving. so that it takes 15 minutes to save. Unfortunatly it takes 60000 minutes - thats a bit more time than i have/carsten Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Posted October 25, 2006 UPDATED 28. octDINx4:Phew, thats a lot of wires and cuts.Same remarks as for DINx1.Use this for DINx2 and x3. Quote
Twin-X Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 DINx4:TK: i would like to attach the design files, so that others can optimize the layout. They have the extension DIY - how can i do this?Do not ask TK ask me ;DYou are now able to attach with extension diy Regards,Jeffry Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Posted October 25, 2006 Thanks :DBtw, some of these modules i am planning to do in something like illustrator/photoshop/gimp or something equal. How can i upload these - rather large - files. Or whats the best, and most durable, way of hosting them on a "third party" website? (hmmm, do you understand it?)/carsten Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Posted October 25, 2006 Made 2 updated versions of DINx1 and DINx4.I am planning to put them in the first post. But only when someone with a greater experience than i have, has said that it should work... or i have build it, and seen it working. But that wont be untill i am making a scan matrix.Maybe tomorrow i will make the DOUT, if i have the time./carsten[EDIT]: I redecided. I am putting the none tested stripboards in the first post anyway, because pretty soon this thread will be in 2 or more pages, and will be really confusing. Quote
pay_c Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 Hi!Little advice on the DIN. I also made some stripboard design (misusing Eagle - see my Traktor controller design) and took the chance to compare the use of single resistors and DIL resistor packages with common line (that means there are 'Pins-1' resistors in there and the free pin goes to one end of all resistors - exactly that what´s in the DIN). This way the DIL resistor packages (in this case 5 pins with 4 resistors) do not only safe A LOT of wiring work (try it out) cause they kinda nicely match the 165´s IC´s but also cost a little less then the single resistors and use less space on the stripboard. I REALLY recommend them (not only) for stripboard designs!That anyhow does not help to much on the DOUT´s (for later) cause you would need the DIL resistor packages with isolated resistors and those do not match the 595´s IC´s to good. Here again, the use of normal resistors is much better.Hope that helps, greetz! Quote
Twin-X Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks :DBtw, some of these modules i am planning to do in something like illustrator/photoshop/gimp or something equal. How can i upload these - rather large - files. Or whats the best, and most durable, way of hosting them on a "third party" website? (hmmm, do you understand it?)/carstenHow large is large? Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Posted October 26, 2006 Little advice on the DIN. I also made some stripboard design (misusing Eagle - see my ......Im afraid i dont understand what you are writing. Are you describing a 1-pin resistor? Could you possibly show me a picture?How large is large?hmmm. maybe up to several megabytes. But, i didnt know eagle could do stripboards. Maybe this will solve the problem of to few components.Pay_c: do you have your old designs laying around on your computer. Anyone standard modules?Please post them here. thanks/carsten Quote
pay_c Posted October 27, 2006 Report Posted October 27, 2006 First: Sorry, no standard stuff, that was a *very big* board (appr. 300 x 250 mm²) which was fitted to my frontplate design.And here is a link to the part I mean, then you should understand easily: http://www.reichelt.de/?SID=26zMKyy6wQARoAAByVKrI7203e0658f6323a8a59834e7fc762a8a;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=B142;GROUPID=3108;ARTICLE=17677;START=0;SORT=artnr;OFFSET=1000(It´s german, but the picture more or less says it all, although it shows a piece with more than 4 resistors inside).Greets! Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Posted October 27, 2006 thats neat. I think i will use those for myself in the future. But i would like to make this collection as close to TKs quickviews as possible./carsten Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Posted October 28, 2006 Check out the new DINx1 AND DINx4.Is this a good and easily viewable layout?Feedback pleaseAlso, could someone upload an image of Dinx1, where the 100nF caps have been placed. Because i have my doubts about this.Carsten Quote
stryd_one Posted October 28, 2006 Report Posted October 28, 2006 An Error Has Occurred!You are not allowed to access this sectionBanned :(;) I could see the dinx1 though... Looks good, only 1 thought - resistors can stand up, so they can be shorter, and the top row could maybe come down a bit. Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Posted October 28, 2006 hmmm. I can see the DINx4, try again.Updated dinx1and dinx4 with upright resistorsFor some reason the larger images cannot be opened completely in the first post. I have to click the image and say reload. Maybe its just the Opera browser[EDIT]: works in firefoxAINx4: Quote
stryd_one Posted October 28, 2006 Report Posted October 28, 2006 hmmm. I can see the DINx4, try again.Works now... But the first post I just see links, not the images, in FF2.... Quote
carsten_the_dane Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Posted October 28, 2006 Thats me. I dont know how to make an image link. Do you?[EDIT]: fixed it. but its still ugly :) Quote
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carsten_the_dane Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Posted October 29, 2006 Uploading all parts needed for designing Core, Ain, Din, SID (needs renaming).Zip folder contains 1. adobe illustrator file.Note that the bridges and component pins can be stredged without affecting the circles in the end. This is because they have been made as brushes.If it looks funny, maybe its because you dont have the brushes i´ve made.I dont know. Please report back!/carstenparts.zip Quote
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