patstormont Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 I started building this ages ago to play live with ableton, my other midi controller(UC33) is on it's last legs, and i was never really happy with it anyway.I had a big break from building but have decided to finish it off.Basically it's setup like a 6 channel mixer with 3 band eqs, 2 sends, 1 mute button, 1 launch button, and 1 encoder per channel. It also has 4 joysticks to control fx, and a rather dodgy monome ripoff, which i'm not 100% sure will work yet. If it doesn't i'll just add more encoders instead.I am a student, so i've been trying to do this on the cheap. I'm pretty pleased with how it's coming along. The only thing that i've screwed up so far is the drilling of the front panel isn't as square as it could be.Anyway here's some pics. Quote
patstormont Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Posted February 13, 2007 a couple morea better view of the knobs, and some messy wiring of the 8x8 grid. Quote
kris Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 looking good keep on itll blow the uc33 into the weeds when its fineshed kris dont worry about things being totally square it just adds to its uniqueness Quote
patstormont Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Posted February 15, 2007 not yet i'm still on 5. i'll upgrade soon though.some more pics, this is how i'm doing backlit buttons.10mm leds with the top sanded flat, glued to the top of tact switches. It looks a bit dodgy but it's actually really sturdy and looks like it will work fine.i need a new camera. Quote
Sinnsyk Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 Let me tell you, ableton 6 has lots and lots of new MIDI futures. You might wanna use them with your box, so stop building, get ableton 6, and continue building :PIt has support for multi-midi-commands (unlimited crossfaders for everything), group-params, etc.I would really really really want to take a look at that, if I were you. Quote
patstormont Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Posted February 16, 2007 I will check it out, a friend has it. Even so I don't think this controller will change much as i'm fairly set in the way i play live, and i'm not far off finishing it. Quote
kris Posted February 16, 2007 Report Posted February 16, 2007 yea sounds like agood idea id like to see this box fineshed you can all ways build another for live6 but by the time you finish it live 7 will be available oh well thats life i suppose kris Quote
Sasha Posted February 16, 2007 Report Posted February 16, 2007 I really like how you shaped the holes around the joysticks, but it would be better to use some other screws. Kep on building... Quote
patstormont Posted February 18, 2007 Author Report Posted February 18, 2007 Yeah it took a while to file them down. Other screws might look better, but I am focussing on functionality more than looks.Anyone know where i can different knobs for the joysticks? the ones that came with them are to short to gice good control. Quote
patstormont Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Posted February 19, 2007 I'm thinking of maybe having a small redesign. I was thinking of using the 4 buttons on top of the matrix to toggle between different setups, but i might add extra buttons for thisI have an encoder for each channel, these will be assigned to control insert fx parameters on specific to each channel.I'm thinking of adding a multi colour led and a small button to switch between the parameters of the encoder. The led will show a specific colour for each parameter. So this brings me to a question:Is it possible in the midibox 64e firmware to toggle through individual encoder assignments, or am i limited to toggling complete snapshots? Quote
patstormont Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Posted March 6, 2007 OK, so things are coming along.I've ditched the button matrix idea and will be replacing them with a 4x4 button encoder matrix with multicolour leds. But in the mean time I have been trying to get it working without the matrix.I've uploaded mios and 64e firmware, but am having some troubles getting any midi output. Anyway a couple of more pics including the new stronger case i found for it: Quote
Sasha Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Patstormont, your controller looks cool. I like those big retro knobs, but seams there is no enough room between them for one finger and should be enough for two if you are turning neighbouring knobs.That tool case is great, I used same kind of case to make pooreman`s laptop by integrating Dell bookshellf PC and 15" TFT. Quote
kris Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 i agree it looks cool and maybe the knobs are a bit close together/big but hey what the heck i was going to use atool case just like this one until i decided to completely build the case from scratch i dont know about poor mans laptop i think creative genius's portable computersounds about right anyway good luck with getting it running kris Quote
Sasha Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 ...i was going to use atool case just like this one until i decided to completely build the case from scratchMe too for my future proyect, after I saw how you did it. ;) Great job Kris!Tool case is great, but I need to put in it so meny things now so it is not big enough. Pooreman`s laptop haven`t got controller integrated. Really no space left. Quote
kris Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 yea it all ways seems to be down to ergonomics the arrangement of objects in space i found making it first in cardboard really helpful kris Quote
Sasha Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 cardboard, you say. :D I alweys do my panels of cardboard first! Very usefull. Almost every time I hange somethinh afetr I see it in real. Quote
patstormont Posted March 9, 2007 Author Report Posted March 9, 2007 yeah the main volume knobs are a bit big, but i don't think it'll be too much of a problem. The main reason i've used those knobs is they were really cheap, 30c each.(about USD25c)i'm getting closer to getting it working, I think my ain boards are dodgy. Probably because i etched them myself. ::) Quote
kris Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 maybe not with me its usually some dodgyy connection somewhere something really simple that it takes me ages to find so keep trying sasha yea the design changes a few times and even when there in aluminium theres always something could be different kris Quote
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