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Wisefire, yes it is possible to use motor faders with mackie control... of course Or maybe I didn't understand your question properly ?

you got it.. the only "protection" mackie has is that the information is not easily found... not even while googling ;)

It's their intellectual property, that's all. And yes, Mackie Control emulation is indeed possible with loads of stuff, only the interface of the mackie is really good, so it's something that is worth replicating.

Mackie Control isn't special... it's just slightly too expensive for what it does ;) http://members.aol.com/mhigrules/MCMap.htm As you can see the 9 faders transmit pitchbend values on channels 1-9. Then just add a button transmitting A# 2 and one transmitting B2. I reckon you could even do this with the aging MidiBox Plus :) http://ucapps.de/midibox.html If this *is* possible, then you could get a full pcb kit plus pic for around 25€... Is that cheap enough?

It's "Mackie Control" or "Mackie Control Universal". It's rapidly becoming a standard for controlling all sorts of software.

Hi yall. I'm slooowly purchasing the parts I'll need for my project, which, in short, will be a big old bunch of buttons with some extra bits in there. Roughly 144 to 160 buttons AND about 24 encoders. So I'm looking into scan matrices, in order to keep the number of dinx4s down for the buttons, along the lines of this: http://ucapps.de/mios/sm_example2_v1.zip - I like the sound of "super-fast!" 8) But then I read the text here: http://ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_scan_matrix1.pdf -saying that an example of more than 64 buttons will come at a later point in time. I remember popping my head in on this forum back then - has the development continued, or did it stop back then? "Additional examples, e.g. for 1024 buttons scanned by a single core module, are planned once this driver has been tested in a real environment." - I assume that some bit of testing will have happened since that time? Will it be feasible to establish 3 such matrices in a project at this point? On a scale of 1-10, how much of a code genius would you have to be? From a laymans POV the idea that you have this really fast 64 input matrix would mean really good scanning of larger arrays as well, right? My only other alternative I guess would be a two core and 8 dinx4 system, which would be too much, I fear. Cheers, and thank you in advance for any help you might be able to throw in my direction - I plan to do a thoroughly documented project to share with you all! I also have many thoughts on future projects involving even larger button rigs, so this is of very high importance to me. Andreas - Machinate

M-audio Trigger Finger... That thing is a beauty. Have one preset for arm buttons, and then others for jamming about with drum sounds.

It's called a glue gun, but I understood klebepistole as well ;) I'm just so inspired by the whole recycling thing - I'm doing a suitcase controller with input jacks as well, I'm doing the classic circuitbending theremin thing - Using LEDs and a good quality photoresistor, and I'll be running tests on a "virtual shaker", made with 4 mercury tilt-switches to trigger midi notes from inside a tennis ball or something. Alright: I'm heading back to the parts list spreadsheet ;)

Haven't people successfully emulated the mackie control universal? In that case why not just use that to control Cuemix instead?

the encoders panel mount, right? I'd try mounting them temporarily, and then position the knobs against the surface, to get some tension that way? They must feel totally different that way than turning them right now.

by the way, check out http://www.alltronics.com/switches.htm - there are some Schadow ones about half-way down @ 1$ each, and some Omcron?s... I'm ordering parts from them in a few days, so if you want some in that same delivery let me know. Andreas.

yes, thanks! here: http://www.alltronics.com/hardware.htm about halfway down.. Have you tried these? Goule, I am completely sold on these: they gave me a quote of 30.35$ shipping for 12 of those joysticks - 70$ for total - or about the same as 4 joysticks from ELFA.se ;-) Gotta love that.

I can't believe I missed your post, eufex. It looks very, very nice, and extremely well thought out. Do keep us posted.

wow, those pics look cool. Great idea with the clocks - IKEA is sometimes too cheap to NOT buy anything... Quick q. about this one: Did you thread your own wiring through the goosenecks? If so, was it difficult? I may do the same thing for some gooseneck lights I've got planned - these look really sturdy.

from this page: http://ucapps.de/midibox_sid.html you've chosen Step B: http://ucapps.de/midibox_sid_csB.html The matrix is in step C: http://ucapps.de/midibox_sid_csC.html :) Andreas / Machinate

hehe, there's always a difference between the french standard and all other standards ;) I've emailed allelectronics.com now... I'll order a big set if it's feasible. I'll be using very light aluminium for this, so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks!

Damn. I thought as much. It looks remarkably similar to the joystick here: http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/setpage.pl?http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/dyndok.pl?dok=125953.htm but the thread looks different: Actually though, when doing a quick A/B comparison they look remarkably similar, though: hmmm. My father-in-law has a pretty good metal spinning lathe that I could probably use to form custom aluminium handles... Hm. How difficult was it to get the threading right? Also, if you don't mind me picking your brain - how much was delivery of the joysticks?

Goddag Kenneth :) Yeah, mec are good... also some of the most expensive buttons out there! Personally I feel they are too springy/plasticey. My mate got hold of a lit switch in Taipei, I think the price was around 1-3 kroner a piece - around 10 kroner cheaper than a mec.dk alternative ::) I hope he goes back there soon. feel free to email me at awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk if you wanna hook up, by the way. andreas

Very nice choice of buttons he has as well - specifically, he has these single button grayhills: http://cgi.ebay.com/100-PIECES-5-KEYPAD-SWITCH-CLEAR-CAP-FOR-CUSTOM-LABEL_W0QQitemZ7502395532QQcategoryZ58166QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem - these ones really supplement the set of keypads I just bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/GRAYHILL-16-BUTTON-KEYPAD-NOS-VERY-NICE-10-lot_W0QQitemZ7579068705QQcategoryZ36326QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Hey, those guys carry that 8x8 matrix - it's only 5.25$ - man, it'll cost you way more than that even to get shaeffer to drill those holes! (I'd pay to not have to mount 64 LEDs any day, tbh!) http://www.excesssolutions.com/cgi-bin/item/ES3219

Hello... I see you found some handles? would you mind sharing where you found them? thanks. Andreas

the usability of any midi controller depends very much on... the user. What hardware/software you use, which genres, mixing style (dub-style mixing, for instance) etc etc etc. I suggest that instead of looking at what a piece of hardware can do, try thinking about what you need for your system, and working from there.

Found one here: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-4-x2-4-RED-GREEN-BICOLOR-8x8-DOT-MATRIX-LED-DISPLAY_W0QQitemZ7578337806QQcategoryZ26206QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem they have a bunch of them left apparently. I'm considering these for my project as well.

thanks! damn, I wish this system had 128+4 dins. :'( Uhm, newb q here, but if I did a two-core system would I be able to program both units from one display+buttons? Specifically a Midibox 64e and a MIDIO128. I'm a bit hesitant to do a system where part of it can only be programmed from a computer.

to clarify: would that be just 2 buttons and an encoder?

Ralf, this looks amazing! Makes my perpetually dormant 128-button project look like shit, though :) What is the current status of this project? And can you tell me how you're interfacing with Ableton Live, and what you're using the LEDs for? Thanks!