Hawkeye

Sorry for you - how bad is it f***ed up? And thanks for the warning! As I have the beforementioned job ahead of me, I will try to first build the control surface with everything (standoffs, switches, leds) in place, aligned and soldered, and when the alignment is good, I will apply small blobs of epoxy directly on the standoffs screwed to the control surface pcb. Very small amounts of epoxy should suffice as there are ~20 connections points. Bye, Peter/Hawkeye

Yay! Got it! I am a happy man now :-D. The panel has been very well manufactured by FPE/Schaeffer AG. Just eating the gummibears that came with the package and waiting for SmashTVs parts delivery ;-). Can´t wait to hear ´em 8580s screaming. Thanks to all of you who have made this great project possible! And by the way: does no one have 15 red waldorf knobs for sale? Pleeaase? The lady wants them so baaaad ;-)

Hi, if you have 15 Red/Black Waldorf Knobs (e.g. unused ones from a bulk order) for sale, please contact me. Is it true, that albs is not producing them anymore? Can´t find them on their website anymore... Thanks! Bye, Peter

Thanks, stuart. Good question with the epoxy, i have lots of it lying around here (RC planes as another hobby) and metal-metal glueing with it does work well, according to the instructions and my experience.

Absolutely stunning! Well done!

Hi folks, just added two HPGL line engravings to the standard frontpanel design. Upper left: a nice manga converted to vector and plotter outline. Lower right: commodore "octacore 8580 audio" logo. Additional price at FPE: ca 15€, costs now 111€. Hope you like it. Will sleep this over and if i still like it tomorrow, order at FPE soon. If you are interested in the Corel-Draw .cdr, HPGL .plt or Frontpanel Designer .fpd files, just tell me, I will share them gladly. Thanks for your help considering the options with screws and glue to bind frontpanel and interface-pcb! I will do it now as many people do it: 4 screws in the corners (flathead) through the case mounting holes AND the pcb, and about 20 spacers directly glued to the backside of the frontpanel. Bye! Hawkeye

Thanks Smithy, you helped me a lot. Will post a screenshot of my frontpanel-design soon ;-).

Thanks, phunk! Smithy, i´ve got two other questions for you. Here: you wrote that mmallucks modded .FPDs (MB-6582_frontpanel_r2_cheapest mod.zip) work perfectly for the four countersunk M3 screws you put at the four corners. 1) Do you have a 1.5mm panel? And it worked with the countersunk drill? 2) Do you think it is possible to just copy the location of the additional drill holes for the standoffs/spacers from the last .fpd ("with mount holes") on this page: http://www.midibox.o..._mb_6582_panels to mmallucks .fpd? I know, that many think, it is ugly to have screws "on the frontpanel" but i prefer this to having glue on its backside ;-). If it works out, I would of course make mmallucks updated fpd with "corner and main-panel holes for countersunk screws" available for everyone. Thanks a lot! Hawkeye/Peter

Hi Smithy, Thanks, but is it possible to have proper sunk head drillings for only 1.5mm frontpanel thickness? You know, drilled in cone-form to accomodate the sunkhead screws (planning on using ISO 7991 M3x20 black, hex). In other words: is 1.5mm thickness sufficient? Uhm, i´ve just seen a pic of your MB-6582 with sunk head screws (a few threads below this). This looks perfect. So, i guess the question is answered - thanks!

Hi Folks, First time here... I want to thank TK, Wilba and SmashTV for their fantastic work! It is a really addicting project. I also like the idea of slaughtering old C64s ;-). After getting all the electronic parts, including kits from SmashTV, I am now about to order the frontpanels from FPE for the PacTec PT-10 and would really like to go "glueless" with screws to the 10mm spacers on both sides. Therefore I plan on using the last .fpd (with mount holes) on this page: http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=wilba_mb_6582_panels There, Wilba writes "I strongly recommend anyone who thinks they need this file to contact me for advice and checking their plans, I can save you a costly mistake!". I´d like to use flathead black screws with a hexagon socket/allen screw (german: senkkopf). Questions: * despite the cost (the last .fpd is the non-optimized version, i think of transferring the holes to the optimized version) is there any pitfall why i should not do this? * can i have a 1.5mm aluminium frontpanel from fpe with proper holes for flathead screws (in german: reichen 1.5 mm für eine senkkopfbohrung?). The fpe designer says, i should use 2mm for this project, whereas 1.5mm are selectable for the other .fpds. If only 2mm are possible: does this still look good on the PT-10? I am aware, that the tactile components are optimized for 10mm spacers plus 1.5mm panel, but i could shorten them to 9.5mm ;-). Thank you for your comments and have a good time! Hawkeye/Peter