d2k Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Hi...K, so I got my LC case drilled, filled and lazertraned. Started adding the parts to it, and then test to make sure all modules and components are workin...First up was connecting the 8 MF's and run the calibration app - which brings me to my first q. What exactly is the ap spose to do? Far as I can tell u move the first fader and the other 7 are spose to move in sync...as there was no fader movement when moving any other fader other than #1. At least all the faders moved anway :) they wernt in sync howver, and other moved quicker/slower than others. One worrying thing was when i moved the MF#1 to 0 all the faders would shoot downwards and make a sound like a car engine being revved when in neutral :/, then the GLCD would dim before going off completely (only lighting up again when i moved MF#1 up to higher level other the 0.... :o. Is this a psu issue? atm i made up a 12V 2A supply...should i get a 15V 2A suppy instead?...Cheers...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 The motorfader app is to try different values for "ain deadband" "mf deadband" and "speed".You try different values, by pressing the buttons connected to din register 1. You move fader 1, and try different values, to try to get the other faders moving as smoothly as possible, as they follow it. This is only a rough guide (depending on the quality of your faders) and you may need further tweaking once you have installed your final application.OK, the faders hitting the bottom, and'buzzing' away at the end of their travel suggests the same problem I have. The faders (panasonic I assume) are not reaching true zero volts, or zero ohms, due to poor design. (feel free to flame me LO ;) I know you love your panasonics) you may be able to increase the deadbands to compensate (check documentation within the .asm file of calibrate and LC emu/houston emu/mackie emu for details, lyou will need to use perl for this) 12v 2A should be completely adequate for this.also if mios 1.3 dosen't work well for the mf's, then try mios1.2, and application in 1.2version as well.Good luck Dan, good to see you are moving along now ;Dbye, from Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 BTW if you have any trouble converting the .asm files into .syx files, I can do this for you. Also, I could send you the version of the LC emu that has worked the best for me, as a starting point, if you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hey Steve...Thanks for clearing that all up :)I'll try some more configs, but it dont look good at this point in time :/ Only a few of the faders move at the same time as MF#1, and as soon as i move it down to low value alll the caos still happens :/...U know that the 12V 2A supply is to power the whole midibox right, not just the MF module?Ta...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Nope, I think the faders are bolloxed :/...When using the 8x MF driver app, the change from 0-127 happens over a distance of like 2cm at the bottom of the fader, then when u have more than 1 fader at 0, the lcd loses power...fikked....Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashtv Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Nope, I think the faders are bolloxed :/...When using the 8x MF driver app, the change from 0-127 happens over a distance of like 2cm at the bottom of the fader, then when u have more than 1 fader at 0, the lcd loses power...fikked....DanDan, That sounds like one (or more) 5818 diodes installed backwards. Are you sure your polarity is correct on D1-D32?Smash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hey Smash...I have the diodes placed as T had done so as in this pic from the MF page:However, looking at the gif pic of the pcb layout:The diodes are placed differently...Best...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 ::)Think i may of been a clown and got the wiper and 0v pins mixed up on the fader....what a charlie!Changin them now - will report...Soz for the drama....!Peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :o :o :o :o :oFrom hate to love, these pana's are excellent!!!No jitter, No clangs, No LCD dropout, No noise - just perfect synced motofaders!!!!!!!yeeeeeoowwww!!!LC back on track ;)Fikked no more....Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK. Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Cool! This saved my day! ;-)Best Regards, Thorsten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilo Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 huummm great ;D So Panasonic MF or not??!!??? I think it's the last part I have to buy to finish my LC...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashtv Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Good to hear that Dan! If you have the time snap a pic of what wires go where on the Panasonics so others won't have the same problems (It took me a while switching wires around to get it right too)On the Alps vs. Pana debate, I have to say that the Panasonic feels more like a good old school pro sound console fader when using it, I really like the weighted feel under my finger when I'm moving things around. Easier to make very small adjustments than with a cheaper feeling fader. Just enough resistance to make it smooth. ;)Have Fun!Smash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_C Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 good to hear you guys are having success...Dan, are you going to use the LC emulation?Smash, you sound happy with your 'box, could you post the settings you used, mf voltage, ain deadband, mf deadband, fader speed?Are you using mios 1.2 or 1.3? is it LC application?My midibox LC still has good days and bad days, so I'm glad to hear that others are having good results! ;DBTW Dan, yes, I meant 2A for whole thing (though I only have 1.6A, but I tried 10A once! but no advantage.)...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2k Posted July 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Hey Guys...Cool! This saved my day!LOL, i was gonna say the day aint over yet - but it had...still worked too ;)huummm great So Panasonic MF or not??!! For me personally Pilo - YES!, they seem to be workin fine now goin by the calibration app. Also, as Smash say's they feel great!Dan, are you going to use the LC emulation?You Betcha! Logic is what all these escapedes are for!! ;)Peace...Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashtv Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Smash, you sound happy with your 'box, could you post the settings you used, mf voltage, ain deadband, mf deadband, fader speed?Well, sorry to be anti-help but I'm not using MIOS on my motorfader box (yet). I simply have not had the time to switch over to the current firmware. I have not even run the old 877 test firmware on it either, it worked great the first time I fired it up so I did not tinker further. Have fun!SmashTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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