Where to buy MB-6582 Control surface parts

[pingosimon]

Hopefully someone finds this useful! As of this posting, I have not actually ordered these parts, so I'm not 100% sure of the reliability of these companies or parts, but I'll update this post later if I find any of these parts don't work.

First of all, everything I could from SmashTV ( http://www.avishowtech.com/mbhp/buy.html ), I did.

48x ALPS tactile switches

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/SKHHDTA010/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRcqShR6iETrbseFQPH8gstG4%3d

4×20 character LCD display

http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/2004a/index.html

15x Rotary Encoders

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alpha-Taiwan/RE160F-40E3-20A-24P/?qs=yA6kp8fx8Y7zlmuFqx9z8g%3d%3d

50x 1N4148 small signal diodes

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1N4148_T50Avirtualkey51210000virtualkey512-1N4148T50A

Fan

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_123

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_91_110

Hope this helps someone!

Edited December 7, 2009 by pingosimon

[fussylizard]

Hopefully someone finds this useful! As of this posting, I have not actually ordered these parts, so I'm not 100% sure of the reliability of these companies or parts, but I'll update this post later if I find any of these parts don't work.

First of all, everything I could from SmashTV ( http://www.avishowtech.com/mbhp/buy.html ), I did.

48x ALPS tactile switches

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/SKHHDTA010/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRcqShR6iETrbseFQPH8gstG4%3d

4×20 character LCD display

http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/2004a/index.html

15x Rotary Encoders

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alpha-Taiwan/RE160F-40E3-20A-24P/?qs=yA6kp8fx8Y7zlmuFqx9z8g%3d%3d

50x 1N4148 small signal diodes

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1N4148_T50Avirtualkey51210000virtualkey512-1N4148T50A

Fan

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_123

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_91_110

Hope this helps someone!

I *really* need to post my parts list and update the wiki. I've been meaning to do this for ages. All of these parts were used with success in my MB-6582. Here's a partial list of what I used:

Fan - 664-AD0405DB-G70-LF - Just a normal fan (no backlight).

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=AD0405DB-G70-LFvirtualkey66400000virtualkey664-AD0405DB-G70-LF

Fan guard - 562-08149 - Chromed

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=08149virtualkey56210000virtualkey562-08149

10mm threaded spacers - 855-R30-1001002

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=R30-1001002virtualkey57420000virtualkey855-R30-1001002

Diodes - 512-1N4148T50A

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1N4148_T50Avirtualkey51210000virtualkey512-1N4148T50A

Encoders - 318-ENC160F-24P

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=RE160F-40E3-20A-24Pvirtualkey14860000virtualkey318-ENC160F-24P

Tactile Switches - 688-SKHHDT

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=SKHHDTA010virtualkey68800000virtualkey688-SKHHDT

DB-25 connector - 571-5-747913-2

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=5-747913-2virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-5-747913-2

DB-25 mounting kit - 571-5207719-1 - You can use bolts you already have instead of this, but it's nice to just have the exact right parts.

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=5207719-1virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-5207719-1

Feedback pots - 313-1250F-100K - 100k linear taper. You can use other values also. I also tried 500k audio taper but preferred these. You might try other values. These have a .25" shaft for knobs.

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=RV122F-20-15F-B100Kvirtualkey14860000virtualkey313-1250F-100K

Knobs for feedback pots - 450-2050-GRX These have a yellow top so you may want different knobs to match your color scheme.

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=450-2050-GRXvirtualkey56100000virtualkey450-2050-GRX

Stereo mix jack - 161-7300-EX

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=161-7300-EXvirtualkey11180000virtualkey161-7300-EX

40-pin right-angle headers - 517-5111TG - If you want to use headers on your control surface board instead of soldering wires directly between the CS and base PCBs, these worked well for me (see my pics, link below).

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=2340-5111TGvirtualkey51750000virtualkey517-5111TG

3mm LEDs - 604-WP7104SYD - These are yellow, but use whatever you like. Don't forget to get one for the rear panel power indicator!

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP7104SYDvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP7104SYD

20x4 LCD - CFAH2004A-YTI-JT - Yellow-on-black, but use whatever you like. This is a relatively expensive display but I love the way it looks.

https://www.crystalfontz.com/product/CFAH2004AYTIJT.html

Be careful with this list. Some of these are yellow which may not work with your color scheme, but hopefully they will be a useful reference. Also, with these LEDs I had to use larger resistors to get the brightness down to a good level. I don't have the # in front of me, but I can check after work and see what value I ended up using for this. I ended up using 2.2K resistors. Note these resistors are changed on the base PCB, not the control PCB. But you may prefer your LEDs to be brighter than me. :-)

Here's some pics of my MIDIbox so you can see some of the parts I used: http://picasaweb.google.com/fussylizard/MB6582?authkey=Gv1sRgCM7npqbPgvbfYA&feat=directlink

I'll try to put together a list of the other parts I used also since I also used a bunch of bolts and stuff plus a few other things (mostly headers/crimp pins) from SmashTV's shop. But now I'd better get working. :-)

Good luck!

Edited January 30, 2010 by fussylizard

[pingosimon]

ooh, I didn't realize I could get fans from Mouser. Thanks!

Edited December 7, 2009 by pingosimon

[fussylizard]

ooh, I didn't realize I could get fans from Mouser. Thanks!

BTW I used 2.2k resistors with those LEDs I posted. Of course you will need to change that if you use different LCDs.

Yeah, I was trawling about that fan site and then discovered Mouser carried usable fans, so iNumSuppliersToHassleWith--;

I ordered pretty much everything for mine from SmashTV, Mouser, and McMaster-Carr (for all the bolts and stuff). I think I attached the fan using bolts I already had and ordered everything else.

[Davo]

You could get the PEC11 series encoders that Smash used to sell for about half the price of the ones you list. See here.

[Smithy]

You could get the PEC11 series encoders that Smash used to sell for about half the price of the ones you list. See here.

Are these of the same size quality and length though, i.e. suitable for use with the Albs/Waldorf Knobs?

Lads i volunteer to update the wiki, with mouser links and such,

as i will have to order myself soon. If i have any questions ill post them here.

Edited December 27, 2009 by Smithy

[fussylizard]

Grizz just PM'ed me about parts from SmashTV so you can add to the above Mouser list the following from SmashTV's shop:

- 1 x base PCB

- 1 x base parts kit

- 1 x control surface PCB

- 1 x 2 pin header for the fan

- 8 x 8 pin headers for the CS to Base PCB if you use right-angle headers like I did (highly recommended)

- 1 x 2 pin header for the CS to Base PCB if you use right-angle headers like I did (highly recommended)

- 1 x 16 pin header (2x8) for the LCD

- Ribbon cable for LCD and base PCB to CS (I would get 4 feet or so)

- 8 x 3 pin headers for the feedback pots

- 1 x 2 pin header for the mini phono ("complete mix") jack

- 1 x 2 pin header for the power LED on the back panel

If anyone notices anything missing please let me know and I'll amend this post.

Thx,

C

[Smithy]

I'm currently putting together a CS parts list in my page on the Wiki:

http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=Smithy

When its finalized it will then go into Wilba's CS Parts List,

and i will try and clean that page up, as well as add alternatives,

e.g the OrientalDisplay Red on Black LCD

Feel free to add.

[Smithy]

Stereo mix jack - 161-7300-EX

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=161-7300-EXvirtualkey11180000virtualkey161-7300-EX

Ooops!

I just realized now that this jack is too big to fit the standard size hole on the mb-6582 back panel.

The solder points / holes are tiny also.

Luckily i had one in my older sid build that fits.